[michael21]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Nope, online betting is extremely bad tbh. The industry is ridiculous and even when proper wins happen they use ridiculous terms to not pay out; Betting 'in person; is of course, massively better in that regard. At least you know you will get your winnings, as its direct to your bloody hand.

Also from personal experience, online betting can get out of hand very quickly, the 'safeguards' in place do not work really, as when 'in the mood' someones not really going to purposely press a button that will exclude them for a day or whatever. I have gambled for as long as I can remember, even when a child I would look forward to the 2p pushy machines when I went to the coast, more than anything else. I have lost control 'in person' a hanful of times, but never ever spend as much as I have when lapsing online. I literally clear my bank account before I will stop, regardless of what was meant with that cash..then lend it from people to buy essentials for ****s sake. Its utterly ridiculous when writing it down..I know it is. But it still happens. And even though I have signed up to gamstop, the national exclusion database, casinos still let me sign up and deposit endlessly, BUT, when a withdrawal is requested after a win, they THEN suddenly realise I am on gamstop and use that to refuse to pay out. Its sick, and exploitative. And I know this, yet have an addiction so go back again and again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, I know this yet still do it again and again, thinking maybe this time, they will pay out given they have allowed hundred of deposits and the withdrawal is for half of what I have put in. Yet nope, again and again. So gamstop, the thing most applauded as helping problem gamblers, is utter utter ****e in reality for helping people to stop. All it has done, is give casinos yet another reason to refuse to pay out...but also lets them take deposits endlessly...the gamstop registration is only ever noticed once a withdrawal is requested, time and time again. Its not a mistake, or an error, if its industry wide and over and over tbh.

Did not mean that to go into essays tbh.

The way I see it is if there not paying you winnings then all bet you have places should be void and all money retrun to you or there can pay what you won there cant have it both ways

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by michael21

The way I see it is if there not paying you winnings then all bet you have places should be void and all money retrun to you or there can pay what you won there cant have it both ways

Exactly. Its one or the other. Can't be both.

If they were not paying winnings because..say..I had made multiple accounts to claim a bonus then of couse thats very different. But if they are not paying because they have suddenly realised I am meant to be excluded for problem gambling, then they should either pay out, or refund all deposits that have been made since the date I am meant to be excluded from, as they claim all bets are void from the date of exclusion when denying winnings...so surely, that means all bets are void. Which would mean all losing bets void from that date also.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Exactly. Its one or the other. Can't be both.

If they were not paying winnings because..say..I had made multiple accounts to claim a bonus then of couse thats very different. But if they are not paying because they have suddenly realised I am meant to be excluded for problem gambling, then they should either pay out, or refund all deposits that have been made since the date I am meant to be excluded from, as they claim all bets are void from the date of exclusion when denying winnings...so surely, that means all bets are void. Which would mean all losing bets void from that date also.

Completely agree with this.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Exactly. Its one or the other. Can't be both.

If they were not paying winnings because..say..I had made multiple accounts to claim a bonus then of couse thats very different. But if they are not paying because they have suddenly realised I am meant to be excluded for problem gambling, then they should either pay out, or refund all deposits that have bei en made since the date I am meant to be excluded from, as they claim all bets are void from the date of exclusion when denying winnings...so surely, that means all bets are void. Which would mean all losing bets void from that date also.

Yea its really bad also when I have a win coral will give be a free £2 bet for back jack or roulette I think there idea is that if I lose the £2 I keep betting till it all gone but I withdraw it so that don't happen


Do you still gamble or have you given up