[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Snobbery to brexit voters equals not buckling and giving us everything we want because empire and WW2.

I mean what would even be the point in the EU if everyone could just have the same benefits with none of the sacrifices?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

No, I didn't vote for any campaign. I voted to leave the EU because I wanted to. The implications was, we come out of the EU and go it alone.

Go what alone? I genuinely don't understand what you mean. Do you know what you mean?

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

One wouldn't build a bridge across the channel and then stop when the estimated completion date had past saying, no problem, we will just stop there, people can swim the rest of the way from now on. The same is true of the brexit agreement. Things do take longer than expected to complete all the time, particularly when something is complex. There is absolutely no reason to leave without a deal, when we will still have to have some form of deal at a later date anyway. We cannot exclude trade with europe, it would be the height of stupidity

True, I'm pretty sure that bloody high speed train was meant to be finished in back in something like 1992. By the time they finish it, every other country is going to have MagLevs already... Or teleporters or something...

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Except it does. Leave win the referendum, so let's say that even 5% of them voted because they were promised night after night on these news shows that brexit would make them better off because we'd hold all the cards in future deals, or that germany would come begging.

Just like anyone voting tory over the last decade have heaped austerity on the most at risk and vulnerable, so it absolutely affects people, what/why others voted the way they did.

They voted to leave because they don't like Communism.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

They voted to leave because they don't like Communism.

And you obviously don't even know what communism means if you think that.

You're not helping to disprove leavers were unaware of what they were voting for.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Snobbery in what way? What do you expect them to do? Give you all the same benefits from being in the Eu without actually having to be in the Eu or put anything in to it?

You should watch the documentary that was made by the eu lot of the behind the scenes drexit discussions...absolutely shocking the way they speak about the uk and its citizens.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Go what alone? I genuinely don't understand what you mean. Do you know what you mean?




True, I'm pretty sure that bloody high speed train was meant to be finished in back in something like 1992. By the time they finish it, every other country is going to have MagLevs already... Or teleporters or something...

Be your own Boss, as opposed to being 1 part of a 28 part monster.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You should watch the documentary that was made by the eu lot of the behind the scenes drexit discussions...absolutely shocking the way they speak about the uk and its citizens.

Any worse than the way leavers talk about remainers, the eu, and the left?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Be your own Boss, as opposed to being 1 part of a 28 part monster.

Being your own boss doesn't equal going to the EU from a position of weakness if we leave with a no deal, and I've already explained why we can't get a deal, so where does that leave your argument?

I know, why don't you leave it for the rest of the day, then come back tomorrow and make all the same claims all over again?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Any worse than the way leavers talk about remainers, the eu, and the left?

The day after the referendum, you was all out, calling leave voters, racist's, bigots, Little Englanders. All we did was use our vote.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You should watch the documentary that was made by the eu lot of the behind the scenes drexit discussions...absolutely shocking the way they speak about the uk and its citizens.

hhhmmm what about how your Politicians behaved? That Priti patel, basically saying that you should have threatened Ireland with food shortages and used it as leverage to get rid of the back stop? You call EU leaders snobby but that kind of talk is disgusting considering what you did during the Irish "famine" and what about you Prime Minister making a comment about our Leo Varadkar "Why isn't he called Murphy like the rest of them?" If that's not a snobby, disrespectful comment I don't know what is

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Any worse than the way leavers talk about remainers, the eu, and the left?

Ten times worse...these arsehole are world leaders to an extent...the normal man in the streets view will not be heard by them...so yes..to answer your question....it is worse.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

The day after the referendum, you was all out, calling leave voters, racist's, bigots, Little Englanders. All we did was use our vote.

Are we now pretending that bigotry didn't play a major part in the leave vote? Is that really where you want to take this discussion?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

hhhmmm what about how your Politicians behaved? That Priti patel, basically saying that you should have threatened Ireland with food shortages and used it as leverage to get rid of the back stop? You call EU leaders snobby but that kind of talk is disgusting considering what you did during the Irish "famine" and what about you Prime Minister making a comment about our Leo Varadkar "Why isn't he called Murphy like the rest of them?" If that's not a snobby, disrespectful comment I don't know what is

What about it?

Boris comments are alleged and nothing more than hearsay or overheard codswallop...I can't judge one man's word...but I have seen and heaRd the eu leaders first hand..so I can judge them..


As for the famine...well....stop living in the ****ing past, that way of thinking has ruined your country for years..

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What about it?

Boris comments are alleged and nothing more than hearsay or overheard codswallop...I can't judge one man's word...but I have seen and heaRd the eu leaders first hand..so I can judge them..


As for the famine...well....stop living in the ****ing past, that way of thinking has ruined your country for years..

Says a brexiteer.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What about it?

Boris comments are alleged and nothing more than hearsay or overheard codswallop...I can't judge one man's word...but I have seen and heaRd the eu leaders first hand..so I can judge them..


As for the famine...well....stop living in the ****ing past, that way of thinking has ruined your country for years..

Stop living in the past???? After one of your politicians threatened to try and starve us as you did back then..bit hard don't you think?

It would be wonderful not to have to "live in the past" but you lot seem to determined to take us all right back there with the NI issue, don't you?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Says a brexiteer.

Looking to the future, surely

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Stop living in the past???? After one of your politicians threatened to try and starve us as you did back then..bit hard don't you think?

It would be wonderful not to have to "live in the past" but you lot seem to determined to take us all right back there with the NI issue, don't you?

Bit of a pathetic reason to start bombing innocents if you ask me, but that's the Irish for you.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Are we now pretending that bigotry didn't play a major part in the leave vote? Is that really where you want to take this discussion?

No, I'm saying bigotry took place after the referendum.

What do you care anyway? You didn't even vote, you couldn't of done, because you didn't know what you was voting for and you wouldn't vote unless you knew, right?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Bit of a pathetic reason to start bombing innocents if you ask me, but that's the Irish for you.

mmhhmm typical Brexiteer right there, good job

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

mmhhmm typical Brexiteer right there, good job

Do you think it's an acceptable reason to go back to blowing innocent people up then?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Looking to the future, surely

Not really, post election polls shows that anxiety about immigration was a major part of the vote, and that's definitely reactionary.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Do you think it's an acceptable reason to go back to blowing innocent people up then?

Blowing up innocent people is never acceptable, neither is going back on agreements that stopped that from happening, wouldn't you agree?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not really, post election polls shows that anxiety about immigration was a major part of the vote, and that's definitely reactionary.

Again, surely that's looking to the future..and how more immigration would effect the person in the future.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Blowing up innocent people is never acceptable, neither is going back on agreements that stopped that from happening, wouldn't you agree?

So if blowing up innocent people is never acceptable then surely the typical Brexiteer comment should actually read...typical sane thinking human being.hmmmm

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So if blowing up innocent people is never acceptable then surely the typical Brexiteer comment should actually read...typical sane thinking human being.hmmmm

Well no, because your comment was implying that all Irish people are terrorists, "Bit of a pathetic reason to start bombing innocents if you ask me, but that's the Irish for you." not "that's terrorists for you" not "that's the IRA for you" but that's "the Irish for you". Tell me again about how you're not a bigot?