[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Blowing up innocent people is never acceptable, neither is going back on agreements that stopped that from happening, wouldn't you agree?

So if blowing up innocent people is never acceptable then surely the typical Brexiteer comment should actually read...typical sane thinking human being.hmmmm

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So if blowing up innocent people is never acceptable then surely the typical Brexiteer comment should actually read...typical sane thinking human being.hmmmm

Well no, because your comment was implying that all Irish people are terrorists, "Bit of a pathetic reason to start bombing innocents if you ask me, but that's the Irish for you." not "that's terrorists for you" not "that's the IRA for you" but that's "the Irish for you". Tell me again about how you're not a bigot?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well no, because your comment was implying that all Irish people are terrorists, "Bit of a pathetic reason to start bombing innocents if you ask me, but that's the Irish for you." not "that's terrorists for you" not "that's the IRA for you" but that's "the Irish for you". Tell me again about how you're not a bigot?

Just like you saying "what you lot did regarding the famine...are you a bigot?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Just like you saying "what you lot did regarding the famine...are you a bigot?

By you lot I meant Britain as a country, what i said was factual,Britain as a country contributed to people in Ireland dying because of lack of food, there was no actual food shortage in Ireland when people starved to death here, Tony Blair even issued an apology about it a few years back. the comment about "starving" us now also came from a british Politician? Is it Bigoted to say British people are British? If so then maybe I am a bigot?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

By you lot I meant Britain as a country, what i said was factual,Britain as a country contributed to people in Ireland dying because of lack of food, there was no actual food shortage in Ireland when people starved to death here, Tony Blair even issued an apology about it a few years back. the comment about "starving" us now also came from a british Politician? Is it Bigoted to say British people are British? If so then maybe I am a bigot?

Are the ira Irish then?...yes....That's the Irish for you...

Perhaps we are just both not very good with using the correct terminology that people don't have a pointless pathetic opinion on.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

By you lot I meant Britain as a country, what i said was factual,Britain as a country contributed to people in Ireland dying because of lack of food, there was no actual food shortage in Ireland when people starved to death here, Tony Blair even issued an apology about it a few years back. the comment about "starving" us now also came from a british Politician? Is it Bigoted to say British people are British? If so then maybe I am a bigot?

You're right Niamh. There's a huge difference between government actions, a government who represent the whole country and actions of an independent organisation, terrorist or not.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

You're right Niamh. There's a huge difference between government actions, a government who represent the whole country and actions of an independent organisation, terrorist or not.

Thank you. I think I'll it there now anyway

[The Slim Reaper]

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

By you lot I meant Britain as a country, what i said was factual,Britain as a country contributed to people in Ireland dying because of lack of food, there was no actual food shortage in Ireland when people starved to death here, Tony Blair even issued an apology about it a few years back. the comment about "starving" us now also came from a british Politician? Is it Bigoted to say British people are British? If so then maybe I am a bigot?

You can't lay all the blame at the hands of the British when Ireland was exporting vast quantities of food during the famine..calf and pig exporting actually went up during the famine.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You can't lay all the blame at the hands of the British when Ireland was exporting vast quantities of food during the famine..calf and pig exporting actually went up during the famine.

Absolutely correct the "Irish" exported it

Spoiler:

The best land was owned by wealthy English lords
First, for historical reasons, more than two million Irish labourers and their families were totally dependent on the potato to survive. This was much higher proportion than in other countries.
Second, the British government at the time was not prepared to fund famine relief and follow the steps taken in mainland Europe to prevent mass starvation.
The reason so many Irish poor relied on the potato was due to the issue of land ownership. The English conquest of Ireland meant most of the best land was in the hands wealthy landlords, many of whom were either English or of English descent. Many of them were known as absentee landlords because they didn’t even live in Ireland.
Most of these people, even those who lived in Ireland, still regarded themselves as British and had little empathy with the native Irish. They owned most of the best land, and their main concern was to make a profit from cash crops like wheat or by raising cattle.
The Irish were confined to the less fertile land. Their smallholdings were divided up between sons so that by the 1840s, most of Ireland’s poor depended almost entirely on what they could grow from small plots of second rate land. Some of these plots were little more than an acre.
The only crop that could provide enough food to support a family on such small plots was the potato. By the 1840s, more than two million people depended on it as their life support system. Even when times were good, they struggled to survive; if the crop failed they knew they faced starvation.

https://ireland-calling.com/irish-potato-famine/

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Absolutely correct the "Irish" exported it

Spoiler:

The best land was owned by wealthy English lords
First, for historical reasons, more than two million Irish labourers and their families were totally dependent on the potato to survive. This was much higher proportion than in other countries.
Second, the British government at the time was not prepared to fund famine relief and follow the steps taken in mainland Europe to prevent mass starvation.
The reason so many Irish poor relied on the potato was due to the issue of land ownership. The English conquest of Ireland meant most of the best land was in the hands wealthy landlords, many of whom were either English or of English descent. Many of them were known as absentee landlords because they didn’t even live in Ireland.
Most of these people, even those who lived in Ireland, still regarded themselves as British and had little empathy with the native Irish. They owned most of the best land, and their main concern was to make a profit from cash crops like wheat or by raising cattle.
The Irish were confined to the less fertile land. Their smallholdings were divided up between sons so that by the 1840s, most of Ireland’s poor depended almost entirely on what they could grow from small plots of second rate land. Some of these plots were little more than an acre.
The only crop that could provide enough food to support a family on such small plots was the potato. By the 1840s, more than two million people depended on it as their life support system. Even when times were good, they struggled to survive; if the crop failed they knew they faced starvation.

https://ireland-calling.com/irish-potato-famine/

Who allowed the landowners to export thier goods?