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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Incels overall come across very angry & bitter but the ones who can't form relationships are probably unable to ever find anyone as all they do is complain and moan and there's clearly alot of mental issues there , I don't think they're all the same . They're not all going to lash out and want to fight or kill women though but jeeez this story is insane . And the person is a lunatic who needs to be locked up for good! .

I've actually watched videos about MGTOW'S & incels and some of them either seem very defeated & sad at the whole relationship thing & dating and others are still angry from all the rejection & abuse they've had . And others seem to want to just be by themselves as they're too anxious and they find the whole dating process stressful .

Some of them have literally given up on finding a wife or girlfriend as they think nobody will want them , they think they're height, weight and looks are stopping them as they've apparently tried their luck with every type of woman they can think of and they swear all the women they've tried to ask out are not out of their league . And how people with disabilities, weight problems etc who probably find it difficult to date also reject them which clearly hurts them psychologically and they can't seem to get over that . So that seems to make them even more frustrated and angry .

But i keep thinking surely someone would date them if they had confidence and was friendly instead of negative ? . I know overall it's easier for women in ways to find a guy especially on these apps women get tons of messages.

Most of them are defeated and sad, at first, but those emotions can quickly turn into frustration and anger given a little time. Especially if they get involved with groups who are actively telling them to "stop being sad, get angry".

Anyway, their main problem (all of them) is treating the opposite sex like another species. They're confused about why no one wants them when they're "doing everything right" like a checkbox exercise... and fail to realise that if they just treated everyone like a fellow human being without a constant ulterior motive, and engaged and conversed with people normally and without agenda, then plenty of people would be naturally drawn to them.