[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No body is denying racism occurred , but I don't think it is the main reason they left the UK

But the racism definitely played a part in their decision .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No body is denying racism occurred , but I don't think it is the main reason they left the UK

It doesn't have to be the main reason to be a substantial enough reason that it affected them.

[parmnion]

Maybe they just wanted away from Andrew and the cover up...

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No body is denying racism occurred, but I don't think it is the main reason they left the UK

Ohhhh but they do though don't they.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

But the racism definitely played a part in their decision .

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It doesn't have to be the main reason to be a substantial enough reason that it affected them.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ohhhh but they do though don't they.

No they don't, because in the main people are screeching that the racism saw them off, when clearly it might have played a part but anyone who watched the out of Africa tour, could see that Meghan was homesick and lonely, people weren't asking how she was, and in all honesty she was probably a bit bored with the restrictions Royal life placed on her AND there are racists in Canada.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ohhhh but they do though don't they.

Only her sister that I've noticed.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No they don't, because in the main people are screeching that the racism saw them off, when clearly it might have played a part but anyone who watched the out of Africa tour, could see that Meghan was homesick and lonely, people weren't asking how she was, and in all honesty she was probably a bit bored with the restrictions Royal life placed on her AND there are racists in Canada.

Of course there are racists in Canada. I doubt she all the racists in the media obsessed with her over there though.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Elliot

This makes me sad honestly. It also makes me really disgusted in the tabloids for continently sensationalising the Meghan story and stirring up everyone in a frenzy distracting from a literal pedo amongst the royals..

If you are referring to Harry and Meghan leaving the royal family, it was they themselves who created the frenzy by the way they went about it.
If they didn't want sensationalism, then they shouldn't have dropped the bombshell and blindsided the Queen and the Palace. The press all over the world ate that up like hungry wolves.
The Queen specifically asked them not to do anything until quiet discussions had taken place over time, and a proper palace statement made in the future but they were like spoilt kids saying 'I want what I want and I want it NOW'!
They totally disrespected her wishes; she heard that their statement was about to break on her laptop ffs! That was BIG news.

Also, did they spare a thought for the stress the frenzy would cause the Queen, a lady in her 90's , with a very frail beloved husband not long out of hospital and all the turmoil she must be in over the Andrew allegations?

Doing what they did, when and how they did it was cruel, but typical of their self - absorption and their selfishishness. Apparently the Queen has had to cancel engagements recently, which is very rare, as she was unwell.

BTW it hasn't been proved that Andrew is a 'literal pedo' - he may well be, but there is no evidence so far to suggest he is at present.

[Ammi]

...this is an October article from last year but I thought it was a really good article in discussing the racism aspect ...

The silence surrounding the Duchess of Sussex’s treatment by the press has become a roar. More than 70 female MPs signed a letter this week in “solidarity” with Meghan after she spoke about her treatment by sections of the media. The letter outlined attempts “to cast aspersions” on her character. It also attempted to address the nature of these attacks: “We are calling out what can only be described as outdated, colonial undertones to some of these stories,” it read.

However, this treatment can be described as only one thing: racist. Not saying so explicitly is part of a growing trend – the word “racist” is now dodged with more fervour than racial slurs themselves.

At one point, there was concern that “racist” was being used willy-nilly; now, it feels as if those in power are thumbing through a thesaurus with kid gloves, searching hastily for synonyms. The phrasing has become almost comically creative: take “racially charged,” “racially loaded,” “racially divisive” and “racially tinged”, as if bigotry is administered in doses with a pipette. “Homophobically tinged” and “sexistly charged” sound equally ludicrous, but I am yet to see them used in lieu of the real terms.


When Trump tweeted that some of the people of colour in Congress should “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came,” Jeremy Hunt, the foreign secretary at the time, resolved not to “use the R-word” (his censoring of it, as if it were akin to the N-word, says it all). But who will resolve to use it? And if Trump’s tweets didn’t call for it, what occasion does?


Many journalists are grappling with editorial guidelines that are making their jobs more difficult. Look at the censuring of the BBC presenter Naga Munchetty, after she said, in relation to Trump’s comment, that every time she had been told to “go back to where [she] came from, that was embedded in racism”. Attempts at impartiality lead to inaccuracy – when the Republican congressman Steve King asked why the terms “white supremacist” and “white nationalist” were offensive, NBC News originally told its staff to “be careful to avoid characterising [King’s] remarks as racist.”

Almost no behaviour seems to merit the descriptor, bar donning a Ku Klux Klan costume (except at Halloween, of course, when its white supremacist roots are apparently neutralised by “banter”) and using the N-word (but not in song lyrics, of course, when its white supremacist roots are apparently neutralised by the beat).

More and more, it feels as if racism is being defined by those least likely to experience it – namely when they themselves are targeted. Apparently, calling rightwing, red-faced, middle-aged white men “gammon” is racist, yet golliwogs, according to 63% of Britons in a survey, are not racist.

As we tiptoe around the semantics and the word “racism” morphs into hate speech, hate crimes continue to soar. Unless something changes, this cycle will continue until “racially tinged” becomes equally as offensive and we replace it with another useless euphemism to protect the feelings of perpetrators.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...able-to-say-so

[thesheriff443]

If you want to make it about race then I will add this.

Meghan was in a position as part of the royal family and celebrity circle to have a massive voice against racism.

It’s fight or flight unfortunately Meghan chose flight along with Harry, and in effect the racist won.

People are dying because of racism not just being called names.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If you want to make it about race then I will add this.

Meghan was in a position as part of the royal family and celebrity circle to have a massive voice against racism.

It’s fight or flight unfortunately Meghan chose flight along with Harry, and in effect the racist won.

People are dying because of racism not just being called names.

Non of us are in their shoes so it's easy to criticise and point the finger ,when we're not experiencing the exact scrutiny.

As I've said already , Harry clearly has been thinking about moving away from the Royal duties etc for a long time ever since his mother died. He himself has said he doesn't want Meghan to go through the same thing.

Their main priority is eachother & their son.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Non of us are in their shoes so it's easy to criticise and point the finger ,when we're not experiencing the exact scrutiny.

As I've said already , Harry clearly has been thinking about moving away from the Royal duties etc for a long time ever since his mother died. He himself has said he doesn't want Meghan to go through the same thing.

Their main priority is eachother & their son.

It’s not pointing the finger, I’m making an observation.

We all know what they chose to do.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It’s not pointing the finger, I’m making an observation.

We all know what they chose to do.

Yes, let's choose to demean the victim of the racism and not the racism itself. No doubt if she had stayed to be a "voice" against it you'd have criticised her for being "woke" or a "snowflake".

[GoldHeart]

No matter what Meghan does she can't win