[Cherie]

Originally Posted by caprimint

But that's the point isn't it? Kizzy isn't planning on doing it forever so it's not really as bad as y'all are making it out to be?

That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue

As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by caprimint

As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

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It's up to her what she does with her body but if she is pre diabetic or something she needs a long term fix, that's just my opinion

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sounds like everything you decide to try is safe and advisable yet you dismiss any other suggestions as disinformation even when it comes from doctors or health specialists..


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Everyone is different I suppose but if the doctors are describing how you feel is hangry then sorry I wouldn't have thought they would advocate that as a beneficial state to be in.
I didn't feel hangry. .. I didn't eat but drank regularly to satisfy any cravings and give my digestive system something to process and stop my blood sugars spiking wildly.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oh don't be daft of course it is.

It isn't though because it's the norm... whereas in truth it's really dangerous.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbf, something doesn't have to be done forever or longterm to be dangerous.

Go on... in all seriousness what do you think is dangerous about this juice cleanse surely you have some thing to back up such a claim?... something I can counter with my experience of it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue

Of course it's a temporary measure, to rid your body of cravings for sugar, carbs, caffeine.

The real work begins in not reintroducing some foods back into your diet or at least vastly reducing your intake.
And getting motivated to move more.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by caprimint

As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

Thanks! That's exactly right, it's short term restriction of certain food groups, sugars and carbs to reboot your system to not crave them to function any longer.
Reduce inflammation and weight on sore joints or remove viceral fat from round organs.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Go on... in all seriousness what do you think is dangerous about this juice cleanse surely you have some thing to back up such a claim?... something I can counter with my experience of it.

Again... I never said it was. I was disputing the claim that something can't be dangerous if it's only short term.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It isn't though because it's the norm... whereas in truth it's really dangerous.

It is though. Just because people do it a lot, doesn't mean everyone doesn't know (and don't have it thrown at them all the time on TV and by doctors/teachers etc) that it's bad for you.

It's like smoking/vaping, people know full well it's dangerous and potentially life threatening, but yeah, people do it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Of course it's a temporary measure, to rid your body of cravings for sugar, carbs, caffeine.

The real work begins in not reintroducing some foods back into your diet or at least vastly reducing your intake.
And getting motivated to move more.

I agree with the move more, but I think where people fail is avoiding some foods altogether, I think everyone should be able to have a treat as completely cutting out foods is difficult and never works for me anyway

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Everyone is different I suppose but if the doctors are describing how you feel is hangry then sorry I wouldn't have thought they would advocate that as a beneficial state to be in.

I didn't feel hangry. .. I didn't eat but drank regularly to satisfy any cravings and give my digestive system something to process and stop my blood sugars spiking wildly.

Well I’ve never felt ‘hangry’ in nearly five years of intermittent fasting ..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Thanks! That's exactly right, it's short term restriction of certain food groups, sugars and carbs to reboot your system to not crave them to function any longer.

Reduce inflammation and weight on sore joints or remove viceral fat from round organs.

For what it’s worth .. this is something I actually fancy trying !!

How long are we talking to reduce my love of bread and sweet stuff ??


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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Again... I never said it was. I was disputing the claim that something can't be dangerous if it's only short term.

Right so nothing to do with the thread topic ... obviously some things are dangerous even if done short term. Thanks for stating the obvious

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Right so nothing to do with the thread topic ... obviously some things are dangerous even if done short term. Thanks for stating the obvious

I responded to a post in the thread, so yes it was.

Obvious to you, clearly not the person I was talking to.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It is though. Just because people do it a lot, doesn't mean everyone doesn't know (and don't have it thrown at them all the time on TV and by doctors/teachers etc) that it's bad for you.

It's like smoking/vaping, people know full well it's dangerous and potentially life threatening, but yeah, people do it.

It might be thrown at them by doctors but in the general population it's the norm ...go to the pub drink to excess, have a kebab. Nobody bats an eyelid.
Say you're doing a juice cleanse and it's, omg! Your gonna die!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

For what it’s worth .. this is something I actually fancy trying !!

How long are we talking to reduce my love of bread and sweet stuff ??


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Im not sure to be honest if you love them like I do you will always want them, but personally I'd say the cravings went after about 4 days. You might feel pretty rubbish at first, headachy and such if you had a lot of caffeine but it passes and then it's fine

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I responded to a post in the thread, so yes it was.

Obvious to you, clearly not the person I was talking to.

You did insinuate you were discussing juicing though maybe try make yourself clearer? A generic 'something' is not very helpful.

[Kizzy]

Update, I've done a month so added in a light evening meal, had scrambled egg yesterday and had a thin turkey steak and a punnet of mushrooms tonight mmmmm

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It might be thrown at them by doctors but in the general population it's the norm ...go to the pub drink to excess, have a kebab. Nobody bats an eyelid.
Say you're doing a juice cleanse and it's, omg! Your gonna die!

No they don't bat an eyelid, but ask them and they know it's bad for them. They do it anyway. That's the point I was making.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You did insinuate you were discussing juicing though maybe try make yourself clearer? A generic 'something' is not very helpful.

I didn't insinuate anything. It wasn't a generic random comment, it was A REPLY to something Caprimint said.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Im not sure to be honest if you love them like I do you will always want them, but personally I'd say the cravings went after about 4 days. You might feel pretty rubbish at first, headachy and such if you had a lot of caffeine but it passes and then it's fine

I experienced that when I went from 7 cuppas a day to zero ...


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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No they don't bat an eyelid, but ask them and they know it's bad for them. They do it anyway. That's the point I was making.

Do they?... That's subjective. A lot of the few pints and a takeout eaters I know think it's perfectly ok :/

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I didn't insinuate anything. It wasn't a generic random comment, it was A REPLY to something Caprimint said.

Yes... you didn't commit to whether you thought juicing was dangerous or not in that comment, although the tone of your posts suggests you feel it is.

Care to clarify?

[user104658]

In all seriousness - why would one need to juice cleanse in order to cut carbs and sugar? I generally don't eat empty "glutenny" carbs like bread, pasta, etc. and keep refined sugars low because I do get joint inflammation (shoulders and wrists, mostly) that seems to be drastically reduced when I keep refined carbs away. I've also reduced (though not stopped, too tasty) red meat consumption lately. But I'm not sure what the benefit of the juice cleanse is, over and above just cutting the junk.