[Beso]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They've been proven not to affect the oxygen sats of people with asthma and COPD etc. so what sort of health condition?

From the source in the op.


list of exemptions has not yet been published, but the rules for face masks on public transport exempt anyone who cannot wear one "because of any physical or mental illness or impairment, or disability", who would experience "severe distress" from doing so, or relies on lip reading, among other reasons

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't get this, Parm. You were quite critical of Boris acting slowly when it kicked off, and now you're looking for loopholes so you don't have to wear a mask and work with everyone else to try and keep folks as safe as possible.

What's the point in wearing a mask when you are more likely to catch it by touch.


All those shop workers not wearing masks coughing on the food packaging and touching it is far more dangerous than me keeping my 2 meter distance from everyone else....

A government telling you what you wear, not on my watch.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What's the point in wearing a mask when you are more likely to catch it by touch.





All those shop workers not wearing masks coughing on the food packaging and touching it is far more dangerous than me keeping my 2 meter distance from everyone else....



A government telling you what you wear, not on my watch.

They're not telling you what to wear - they're telling shops what to require you to wear to enter. Again, you don't have a right to enter a licensed premesis. If the licensee says you can't come in, you can't come in.

You can wear what you want at home - and they wouldn't be able to make them mandatory outdoors.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They're not telling you what to wear - they're telling shops what to require you to wear to enter. Again, you don't have a right to enter a licensed premesis. If the licensee says you can't come in, you can't come in.

You can wear what you want at home - and they wouldn't be able to make them mandatory outdoors.

But if you said you had a condition so didnt need to wear one and they refused you entry, they would be violating your civil rights.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What's the point in wearing a mask when you are more likely to catch it by touch.


All those shop workers not wearing masks coughing on the food packaging and touching it is far more dangerous than me keeping my 2 meter distance from everyone else....

A government telling you what you wear, not on my watch.

Sometimes you show such care and consideration for others, then other times, like this, I just don't get what you're fighting against or where you're coming from. It's something easy and painless that we can all do to reduce the risk for everyone and help life get back to normality.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Sometimes you show such care and consideration for others, then other times, like this, I just don't get what you're fighting against or where you're coming from. It's something easy and painless that we can all do to reduce the risk for everyone and help life get back to normality.

Ok..what about all these protests and gatherings where most people didnt have a mask on.wheres the spike in new cases and mass deaths?


It looks like living a normal life like those people were is ok after all.

You may argue that that was outdoors unlike supermarkets. But wheres the spikes from the supermarkets during all the weeks we haven't been wearing masks? But all of a sudden you can only catch covid in supermarkets after July 24th

I'm just not buying this **** anymore, .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ok..what about all these protests and gatherings where most people didnt have a mask on.wheres the spike in new cases and mass deaths?


It looks like living a normal life like those people were is ok after all.

You may argue that that was outdoors unlike supermarkets. But wheres the spikes from the supermarkets during all the weeks we haven't been wearing masks? But all of a sudden you can only catch covid in supermarkets after July 24th

I'm just not buying this **** anymore, .

they were researching the benefits? wouldn't it have been much worse for them to say wear one anyway with no evidence to back it up, no one is asking you to walk round all day and night in a mask, put one one when you walk into a shop, same way as you sanatise your hands before going in with the sanitiser provided, do you do that? , and we have to assume the shop staff will have washed their hands and sanatised before coming on duty? The virus is under control now and these measures are to drive it down further and prevent a further wave?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

That is a very good metaphor, it works exactly like that. I am sick at the moment with a high temperature and I am so glad I wore my mask the whole time when I was out the other day. It's probably not covid-19 but it's quite nice that if I am contagious then there's a lower chance that I passed it on to anyone.

...you take care, Jess.....

[Beso]

My hands are more pickled than my liver.

Because the hands are important.

[Tom4784]

Anyone that would kick up a fuss about wearing a mask for ten minutes while they do their shopping is a selfish child.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That actually came from a lefty.

Doubt but it doesn't matter, a Karen is a Karen and you're listening to a particularly dumb one.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Anyone that would kick up a fuss about wearing a mask for ten minutes while they do their shopping is a selfish child.

Absolutely.

Far better to wear a mask or facecovering, than have to be connected up to a ventilator or even help put someone else on a ventilator.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What's the point in wearing a mask when you are more likely to catch it by touch.


All those shop workers not wearing masks coughing on the food packaging and touching it is far more dangerous than me keeping my 2 meter distance from everyone else....

A government telling you what you wear, not on my watch.

Don’t go shopping until it’s lifted then I guess?

[Ammi]

...this is tongue in cheek, obviously and there are lots of other similar vids...I don’t understand any thought process of not wanting to wear a mask...

..’oh, just pop this on, it could save your life/save the lives of other people..’...

..’no, thank you, I won’t bother, not keen on it tbh...’....


...makes no sense, no sense...

[Ammi]

...I can just imagine the conversations that the aliens will have...oh, look at the Earth planet...they were consumed by a virus and all wiped out, poor things...they were asked to wear masks, how awful...but they stood firmly and bravely, bless them...

[AnnieK]

The annoying thing with people who are refusing to wear the fave coverings is that when you wear them they actually protect other people more than the wearer so if they are refusing to wear one it is other people, rather than themselves that they are putting at risk. Its not a big ask to cover your nose and mouth with a piece of cloth just when you're in a shop. People who have been shielding have not been able to leave their homes at all for 16 weeks....they have borne the isolation from family and friends and boredom and loneliness and now want to be safe when they venture to the shops. Don't take away that freedom for them by risking a second, more severe wave in the Autumn.

[bots]

i don't see it as any different from the smoking ban in public places. It amounts to the same thing. Smokers were putting others health at risk now those not wearing masks are doing the same

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't see it as any different from the smoking ban in public places. It amounts to the same thing. Smokers were putting others health at risk now those not wearing masks are doing the same

Agreed. I was talking to my dad about it (he had to shield) and he likened it to back in the 80s when they made seatbelt wearing law. He said that just about everyone he knew then kicked off saying they shouldn't be forced to wear one....now its second nature to get in and belt up. Hopefully people will see that this is the right thing to do for safety and will just do it

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The annoying thing with people who are refusing to wear the fave coverings is that when you wear them they actually protect other people more than the wearer so if they are refusing to wear one it is other people, rather than themselves that they are putting at risk. Its not a big ask to cover your nose and mouth with a piece of cloth just when you're in a shop. People who have been shielding have not been able to leave their homes at all for 16 weeks....they have borne the isolation from family and friends and boredom and loneliness and now want to be safe when they venture to the shops. Don't take away that freedom for them by risking a second, more severe wave in the Autumn.

...I would do anything for life..(...to help preserve it..)...but I won’t do that..?....

Youtube video

[Beso]

Things just dont make sense to me..

I'm out in the van today and I've passed 2a learner drivers sat with the instructor in a car with the windows up and no face coverings...surely that is more dangerous than a supermarket!

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Things just dont make sense to me..

I'm out in the van today and I've passed 2a learner drivers sat with the instructor in a car with the windows up and no face coverings...surely that is more dangerous than a supermarket!

My friends husband is a driving instructor and he said all instructors and learners should wear correct PPE. They have to talk when facing forward, not face to face, no air con but the vehicle must be ventilated, no handshakes and the car sanitised between each learner taking extra care where anyone could touch. The ones you have seen are obviously not following the rules. Every learner I have spotted round here have had masks on

[The Slim Reaper]

[Tom4784]

Someone else's stupidity in not wearing a mask when they should doesn't justify selfishness in not wearing a mask in shops.

[Smithy]

I saw a good analogy on Twitter that said during the Blitz people were told to turn their lights off to stop germans bombing them, nobody turned round and said “it’s my right to keep my lights ON”

[Nicky91]

imagine those against face masks bringing up something silly as ''civil rights''

it is either you wearing a face mask, or you stay at home and never leave your home