[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...but that’s the whole point though, if there is dishonesty then I can see why some are being difficult about wearing them...I don’t agree to not wearing one but i do see both sides...for instance, I’ll just say schools because obviously that’s applied to me more...there have been more children attending but in September it will be a full house, it has to be and most school staff want it to be..so no issue...?...but I wish the government would just be honest and say...ughhhh, we just have to have normality...because we do...instead of saying, oh you’ll be in that same class of children all day so there’s very little risk....which is just not true...their dishonesty is more frustrating for me than the virus is...

I agree with that Ammi, I wish they would just say "look guys ideally we'd all just stick with distancing for the long term but in practical terms the country is going to collapse so masks are our best option for a half-way point".

They don't think people will accept a compromise though and I'm not sure I even really blame them there, people have not done a good job in recent years in suggesting that they can comprehend or accept shades of gray, they will push HARD for a simple black-or-white answer and that makes honesty quite difficult. When is the honest truth ever easy to swallow?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree with that Ammi, I wish they would just say "look guys ideally we'd all just stick with distancing for the long term but in practical terms the country is going to collapse so masks are our best option for a half-way point".

They don't think people will accept a compromise though and I'm not sure I even really blame them there, people have not done a good job in recent years in suggesting that they can comprehend or accept shades of gray, they will push HARD for a simple black-or-white answer and that makes honesty quite difficult. When is the honest truth ever easy to swallow?

...I’m not sure, I think the majority know the truth of it anyway...we’ve had so much information over the last few months that people know why industry is opening/why schools will be fully open etc...I honestly think there would be less resistance or reluctance if that honesty was shown because most understand, ‘normality’ has to return as much as possible...it’s that dishonesty that’s causing the confusion, which leads to resistance/reluctance and refusal...comprehension comes from honesty and that’s a basic principle we all know ...if we lied to our children, we could expect ‘bad behaviour‘ when their trust and belief is let down...

[James]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Top tip if you wear glasses like me. Put your glasses on after you put on your mask and they don't steam up

Three tips to stop glasses steaming up when wearing a mask.

Video - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/newsbe...with-a-mask-on or https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1129800070728286

[Vanessa]

I already wear them when I go into any shop.

[Cherie]

The WHO only updated guidance on 8th June!

June 8, 2020 -- The World Health Organization has changed its stance on wearing face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic.People over 60 and people with underlying medical conditions should wear a medical-grade mask when they’re in public and cannot socially distance, the WHO said. The general public should wear a three-layer fabric mask in those situations.

The WHO also updated their advice for medical workers, saying all of them should always wear a medical mask while in clinical areas, not just people working with COVID-19 patients.

The organization had previously said there wasn’t enough medical evidence to support members of the public wearing a mask, unless they were sick or around people with the coronavirus. The widespread wearing of masks might lead to a mask shortage for medical workers and create a false sense of security in the public, WHO officials had said.

WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, speaking Friday during a media briefing in Geneva, said WHO’s stance was based on new research.

"In areas with widespread transmission, the WHO advises medical masks for all people working in clinical areas of a health facility, not only workers dealing with patients with COVID-19," Tedros said, according to CNN.

"Second, in areas with community transmission, we advise that people aged 60 years or over, or those with underlying conditions, should wear a medical mask in situations where physical distancing is not possible," Tedros said.

Third, he said, "WHO advises that governments should encourage the general public to wear masks where there is widespread transmission and physical distancing is difficult, such as on public transport, in shops or in other confined or crowded environments."

The WHO guidance says people can make their own three-layer masks by using an inner layer of an absorbent material, such as cotton or cotton blends; a middle layer made of a non-woven material polypropylene or cotton to enhance filtration of droplets; and an outer layer of a non-absorbent material such polypropylene, polyester, or their blends. Stretchy, porous materials should be avoided.

The WHO guidance says masks should only be worn by one person and should be changed if soiled or wet. Masks should be washed at high temperatures or, if hot water is not available, boiled for one minute.

Wearing masks isn’t enough to protect a person from the virus, the WHO said.

“The use of a mask alone is insufficient to provide an adequate level of protection or source control, and other personal and community level measures should also be adopted to suppress transmission of respiratory viruses,” the WHO said.

[bots]

yeah, i have medical grade masks, not sure if it will make any real difference, but i would rather get something that at least pretends to be quality

[user104658]

The only major concern I have is that it might make people forget to hand-wash / use sanitiser which is still actually the MOST important thing to be doing. The virus is far more often transmitted through touch (getting it on your hands then touching your face) than through the air.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The only major concern I have is that it might make people forget to hand-wash / use sanitiser which is still actually the MOST important thing to be doing. The virus is far more often transmitted through touch (getting it on your hands then touching your face) than through the air.

You're supposed to wash your hands before putting the mask on and after taking it off though.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

You're supposed to wash your hands before putting the mask on and after taking it off though.

On that front, I imagine very few people will actually do that. Maybe a quick blast of hand sanitizer on the way into a shop.

[James]

How are you supposed to wash your hands when you are out and about?

[bots]

there are more and more sanitation stations around, but i just think of public loos and how washing your hands there is not a germ free experience

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there are more and more sanitation stations around, but i just think of public loos and how washing your hands there is not a germ free experience

Definitely best to avoid unless an emergency imo

[Ammi]

...I wonder if gloves having to be worn will be something that’s brought in as well.../...it’s been that way in Spain all through, that gloves are given/taken as a shop is entered...


...yesterday, obviously many people were wearing masks as expected...but quite a few were wearing them incorrectly also and wearing them pulled below the nose, which defeats the purpose completely...surely we can’t be at the stage of given information that there’s uncertainty of how to wear a mask correctly to minimise spreading....

[Nicky91]

umm hand hygiëne, and this is what we (me, my parents) had been doing even before covid

anti-bacterial wipes, which is very handy to carry with you in your purse, or also have in your car, we usually use them after grocery shopping, or basically at day out before we touch our lunch for example too

i recommend it to anyone now, however when you get home, make sure you have some hand cream since hands might be bit dry after those wipes

[Beso]

Dont use wipes. Very very bad for the planet.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Dont use wipes. Very very bad for the planet.

they are good in terms of health and safety though

[thesheriff443]

Costa coffeee,Salisbury’ and Asda have all said they they will not enforce mask wearing in their stores.

They said it’s not their responsibility to police who comes into their stores.

Yesterday I was out and there where someshops who had some one out side presumably checking.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I wonder if gloves having to be worn will be something that’s brought in as well.../...it’s been that way in Spain all through, that gloves are given/taken as a shop is entered...


...yesterday, obviously many people were wearing masks as expected...but quite a few were wearing them incorrectly also and wearing them pulled below the nose, which defeats the purpose completely...surely we can’t be at the stage of given information that there’s uncertainty of how to wear a mask correctly to minimise spreading....

I always wear gloves and a mask when I head out.
Then wash them after I've been out too.
Touching nothing in shop or store, except what I'm buying.


I just think ANYTHING that may even help restrict the passing on of this virus is worth doing.
I've worn a mask and gloves since March so will as long as this takes to defeat this virus, if it ever is defeated completely that is.

I just believe in being safer than sorry.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I always wear gloves and a mask when I head out.
Then wash them after I've been out too.
Touching nothing in shop or store, except what I'm buying.


I just think ANYTHING that may even help restrict the passing on of this virus is worth doing.
I've worn a mask and gloves since March so will as long as this takes to defeat this virus, if it ever is defeated completely that is.

I just believe in being safer than sorry.

...yeah I agree, Joey...if mask wearing and possibly glove wearing is the new ‘normal’ for now and into the future, then so be it, it’s a simple adaption...the virus isn't going anywhere, anytime soon so we have to adapt our daily lives to try our best to preserve life ...that’s all we can do, so much is out of our control but those easy steps aren’t...

[Beso]

Havnt worn a mask yet and havnt been challenged yet

[Cherie]

I don't see the need for gloves if people wash their hands and use the sanitiser available in the shop, the way some people discard disposable masks with no thought as to the environment or who will be be picking up their dirty mask, it would be the same with gloves so I really hope that is not the next thing introduced, it seems a bit senseless to me

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah I agree, Joey...if mask wearing and possibly glove wearing is the new ‘normal’ for now and into the future, then so be it, it’s a simple adaption...the virus isn't going anywhere, anytime soon so we have to adapt our daily lives to try our best to preserve life ...that’s all we can do, so much is out of our control but those easy steps aren’t...

I agree.

I found it irritating at first but to protect myself and others, I wanted to from the start to limit in any and every way possible, transmission of this virus.

It's no hardship to wash gloves after wearing them.
Nor masks.
However, it only needs to be anything like a scarf, headscarf or as I said elsewhere, someone cut the top of a hat.
Then just pull it over their nose and mouth when out..
Much like a muff on your hands.
Then washing it.

Not much needs to be thrown away regularly.
There's lots of positives to use around re-use and washing than always looking for negatives.

I don't think I've ever washed my hands more actually.
I find I do it now even when I've done nothing or been nowhere.

Not a bad habit to get into at all in my view.

[joeysteele]

I have to say too.
I popped out this morning to a Store I use.

It was fairly busy.
All staff had masks or visors on.
Not a single customer hadn't a mask or facecovering on either.

I was impressed to see that.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Havnt worn a mask yet and havnt been challenged yet

Lucky you.

[MTVN]

Must say my estimates of 50-75% of people complying with this have proven very far off the mark, I'd say it's more like 95%