[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Talking of vicious mental abuse there's no verdict yet, and here you are judge juror and executioner.
It's like the #be kind movement folowing Caroline Flack's suicide never happened....

obviously these two had a very volatile relationship, in this disgusting media circus there are no innocents both have been exposed. Neither are shrinking violets, Winona Ryder and Kate Moss weren't either.. if you attract chaotic people and have turbulent love affairs then the lines of who did what to whom and why are going to get blurred.
Blaming one party in the relationship is not right or fair the both had very glaring faults.

I've heard the audio where she basically said that if Johnny went public with what she had done, that no one would believe him. To me, that is abuser speak and compiled with everything else that's come out about her, it's fairly obvious that she is the abuser in this situation. He wanted to leave her, she got crazier and crazier. Abusers don't typically want to give up control which makes Depp less likely to be the abuser in this case since he wanted the relationship to end.

Would you be saying that both sides were at fault if the genders were reversed? If Johnny Depp stepped forward as a victim to begin with but things were revealed that painted Amber Heard as the actual victim, would you be saying both sides were at fault? I'd be blaming Depp just the same as I'm blaming Heard now.

In abusive relationships, one side is always the abuser and the other is reacting to that abuse, It seems very much that Amber Heard preyed on his substance abuse issues and degraded the relationship to the point where he was broken and acting out so that she could act like the victim as she did originally and I believed her. Coercive control, physical abuse, emotional and psychological abuse. From what we've heard, Amber Heard is guilty of all of this. As I've said earlier in the topic, reacting badly to being abused over a period of time doesn't make you as bad as the abuser. There's a whole line of Depp's exes clamouring to his defense although they have no reason to which suggests that his actions in this relationship are an anomaly, a reaction to the abuse he's received at her hands.

To borrow an example from the soaps, as inappropriate as that may be, would you believe that Little Mo from Eastenders and Yasmeen from Corrie are just as abusive as their partners because they fought back? I wouldn't say so at all. When you break people down, they'll act out of character, it doesn't make it right but it doesn't make them abusive either.