[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Swan

True, but it's up to twitter to ban any hate speech and/or false accusations. I don't know the guy so im not defending him, im just saying i think it'll be very hard for anyone to sue over something said on social media and be successful.

...as Liam said though, it’s a false accusation...so effectively libel...which is not a ‘typical’ social media, type hateful/phobic abuse...it would really send out an awful message imo, if it isn’t something that’s addressed immediately because of the amount of abuse and hate on social media...which as it seems, is already escalating into libellous comments...

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...as Liam said though, it’s a false accusation...so effectively libel...which is not a ‘typical’ social media, type hateful/phobic abuse...it would really send out an awful message imo, if it isn’t something that’s addressed immediately because of the amount of abuse and hate on social media...which as it seems, is already escalating into libellous comments...

Is there a case of something similar happening, ie suing someone for libel comments made on twitter (im generally interested, not being funny)?

Like i said in my previous post, i just can't see how it'll be feasible.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Swan

Is there a case of something similar happening, ie suing someone for libel comments made on twitter (im generally interested, not being funny)?

Like i said in my previous post, i just can't see how it'll be feasible.

Katie Hopkins was bankrupted in a defamation suit for falsely accusing someone of a crime

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Katie Hopkins was bankrupted in a defamation suit for falsely accusing someone of a crime

Good.

On twitter?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Swan

Good.

On twitter?

It was on a public forum on the internet yes, I think it was Twitter, but whether it was or not is slightly irrelevant in these cases

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Katie Hopkins was bankrupted in a defamation suit for falsely accusing someone of a crime

..yeah, I do think that Laurence Fox is playing a dangerous game atm...it can be played for a while in ‘feeding off prejudice’ but it’s not a game that gives any wins in the end, as it hasn’t for Katie...it’s a very ‘short game’, I think and it may make him unemployable or much less employable etc...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Swan

Is there a case of something similar happening, ie suing someone for libel comments made on twitter (im generally interested, not being funny)?

Like i said in my previous post, i just can't see how it'll be feasible.

Recent events have made it clear that a false and defamatory statement posted on Twitter or in a blog is not immune from legal action. If a tweet or blog post is defamatory, untrue and cannot be defended, the maker of the statement can be liable for defamation and for substantial damages.

https://www.taylorwessing.com/downlo...ial_media.html


...there are lots more articles, Swan ...but that one was the top of the page when I googled...

...I mean, it just make sense to me that Twitter can’t give ‘immunity’ to lawsuit...

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Recent events have made it clear that a false and defamatory statement posted on Twitter or in a blog is not immune from legal action. If a tweet or blog post is defamatory, untrue and cannot be defended, the maker of the statement can be liable for defamation and for substantial damages.

https://www.taylorwessing.com/downlo...ial_media.html


...there are lots more articles, Swan ...but that one was the top of the page when I googled...

...I mean, it just make sense to me that Twitter can’t give ‘immunity’ to lawsuit...

I'll read that in a second. Im not saying it should give immunity, im saying the sheer number of insults/false accusations posted on twitter everyday will make it hard for anyone to be successful when suing. It'll will have a knock on effect that no system, civil, legal or otherwise will be able to cope with.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Swan

I'll read that in a second. Im not saying it should give immunity, im saying the sheer number of insults/false accusations posted on twitter everyday will make it hard for anyone to be successful when suing. It'll will have a knock on effect that no system, civil, legal or otherwise will be able to cope with.

all it needs is a couple of high profile successful cases before people understand that they are not free to write anything they feel like without consequence

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

all it needs is a couple of high profile successful cases before people understand that they are not free to write anything they feel like without consequence

...yeah, and I think that, that’s the one ‘good’ that Katie Hopkins has done...it took a while for her...but I think now..?...lawsuits will be auctioned more quickly if applicable...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Swan

I'll read that in a second. Im not saying it should give immunity, im saying the sheer number of insults/false accusations posted on twitter everyday will make it hard for anyone to be successful when suing. It'll will have a knock on effect that no system, civil, legal or otherwise will be able to cope with.

...it was only two tweets that more or less cost Kate Hopkins her hues and bankrupted her...but yeah I mean, social media’s like Twitter or huge for abuse and now libel it would seem is the way it’s going...so if the system isn’t able to cope...?..then it would have to be expanded to enable it to cope because things like this can’t be not acted on...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

I'll read that in a second. Im not saying it should give immunity, im saying the sheer number of insults/false accusations posted on twitter everyday will make it hard for anyone to be successful when suing. It'll will have a knock on effect that no system, civil, legal or otherwise will be able to cope with.

You're being quite gross here with your downplaying. This wasn't some trading of insults, Crystal isn't suing because that flop called her a dickhead. She's suing because he accused her and another prominent LGBT voice of being peadophiles based on nothing but their sexuality. That's not an insult, that's an accusation and a both a grave and false one at that.

The system isn't going to collapse because a flop actor will be made to face the consequences of his actions.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're being quite gross here with your downplaying. This wasn't some trading of insults, Crystal isn't suing because that flop called her a dickhead. She's suing because he accused her and another prominent LGBT voice of being peadophiles based on nothing but their sexuality. That's not an insult, that's an accusation and a both a grave and false one at that.

The system isn't going to collapse because a flop actor will be made to face the consequences of his actions.

I've said 'false accusations' twice now, did you miss that part?

Also, you are literally missing my whole point here, as usual.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

I've said 'false accusations' twice now, did you miss that part?

Also, you are literally missing my whole point here, as usual.

Your point is quite basic, it's not difficult to grasp.

It doesn't matter that you mentioned false accusations out of obligation because you've downplayed these accusations of insults by being all like 'But if everyone sues each other over insults, the system will collapse1!!11!'

Falsely accusing someone of a crime is punishable by civil law and has been for decades, the system hasn't crashed and burned yet because most people don't go around accusing people of being peadophiles, and it won't crash and burn if Crystal gets her justice. It's all just hysteria on your part in an attempt to talk down what is a valid case.

[Ammi]

...again, I wonder if it was flipped and it was Laurence who was inferred as a paedophile...