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29-11-2020, 07:24 AM | #51 | |||
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As a matter of interest Smudgie have you cut them out altogether?
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29-11-2020, 07:44 AM | #52 | |||
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Many carbs are good for you and are required by the body to function correctly. Also carbs differ very greatly in type. Things like oats and lentils are extremely good for you, stop you feeling hungry for longer and don't spike your blood sugar levels
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29-11-2020, 08:26 AM | #53 | |||
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I gather the latest studies are suggesting that fat isn’t that bad for you compared to the real danger ... sugar .
Sugar is apparently the real KILLER out there . Sadly it’s so addictive and so difficult to reduce dramatically never mind exclude totally . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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29-11-2020, 09:38 AM | #54 | ||
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When you talk about cutting out sugar though - what about fructose? Because I think "chip butty vs Mars bar" is a bit of a non-starter as an argument... No one thinks either is a good food choice... Surely. But what about a bowl of pasta, vs an apple and a banana? The latter is full of fructose and many who are cutting sugars would cut out fruit entirely. |
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29-11-2020, 10:00 AM | #55 | |||
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Slow release carbs plus fruit and veg. The size of your meal makes a massive difference as well. Not a Mads bar fan but quite partial to a chocolate orange occasionally. |
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29-11-2020, 11:14 AM | #56 | |||
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You wouldn't sit and eat a whole bunch of bananas would you? Earlier you suggested yoghurt as part of your diet plan, to me this isn't really beneficial unless containing live culture it's just more sugar and more of a snack than part of a meal. When considering fruit and yoghurt there are other benefits to offset the sugar, and if not snacking or drinking sugar pre diabetics can justify the trade. For me this is the perfect substitute , you're less likely to feel you're denied everything if things like the occasional piece of fruit or yoghurt is tolerated rather than go cold turkey.
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29-11-2020, 12:24 PM | #57 | |||
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Yes I would say that is the best approach
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29-11-2020, 02:05 PM | #58 | |||
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By the same token if you were partial to a chip butty occasionally then you would be able to factor that in and it not be detrimental smudgie?
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29-11-2020, 03:34 PM | #59 | ||
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29-11-2020, 03:59 PM | #60 | |||
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30-11-2020, 06:36 AM | #61 | |||
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30-11-2020, 11:26 AM | #62 | |||
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Well the wife says I’m excluding bread from my diet starting today up to Christmas ...
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30-11-2020, 11:32 AM | #63 | ||
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Healthy people's blood sugar is self-regulating and doesn't spike. That's sort of the point, really. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 30-11-2020 at 11:33 AM. |
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30-11-2020, 12:45 PM | #64 | |||
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Not everyone would class that behaviour as healthy.
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30-11-2020, 01:25 PM | #65 | ||
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I didn't say that the behaviour is healthy, it certainly isn't optimal, I said it's safe for healthy people.
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30-11-2020, 03:05 PM | #66 | |||
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And how do healthy people become unhealthy?... They binge eat at weekends. That kind of behaviour isn't safe for anyone long term.
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30-11-2020, 06:11 PM | #67 | ||
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You're essentially saying that even fit, healthy weight people shouldn't enjoy unhealthy food... Ever. Weren't you criticising me for "extreme" diet ideas before? I can't think of anything more extreme than insisting that already-healthy individuals can't indulge occasionally. That also IMO is the absolute quickest route to frustration, broken willpower and total abandonment of general healthy eating. |
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30-11-2020, 06:53 PM | #68 | |||
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Lean healthy people are not wired differently, if you eat large amounts of food and sugar your blood sugars will spike. For me eating silly amounts of unhealthy foods like that some days will lead to craving those foods other days too and is long term not a good idea. As smudgie said, and was my point from the start if you want a slice of pizza (or chip butty) or a bit of chocolate have some... denying yourself all week then eating the whole thing is counterproductive and basically is the bad eating habits that lead to health issues. And is effectively an example of broken willpower, as had you not denied yourself all week you perhaps wouldn't feel the need to eat a family sized bar on Saturday out of frustration?
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01-12-2020, 08:29 AM | #69 | ||
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To be fair, I can also accept that my viewpoint on this has its limits as a 6'2 well built sexy feller; my calorie intake is relatively high as standard, I don't really need to count them at all and so that doesn't come into the equation like it would for, say, a 5'2 female. The difference isn't in eating more at weekends, it's just in not having to "be healthy" with fats, proteins, fruit & veg and nuts/seeds/pulses and swapping them out for naughty stuff. Like refined sugar and dirty empty carbs. Trough of macaroni cheese and a pack of tangfastics. Mmm. |
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01-12-2020, 10:51 AM | #70 | |||
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