[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Fit and healthy people who are active and mostly eating healthily don't go to bed on a Saturday night trim and wake up fat with diabetes... We can't babystep people all of the time; people know when they're feeling less fit and gaining weight in plenty of time to act on that before it becomes an actual health problem (should they want to).

You're essentially saying that even fit, healthy weight people shouldn't enjoy unhealthy food... Ever. Weren't you criticising me for "extreme" diet ideas before? I can't think of anything more extreme than insisting that already-healthy individuals can't indulge occasionally. That also IMO is the absolute quickest route to frustration, broken willpower and total abandonment of general healthy eating.

Yes.. I'm saying that if healthy people eat unhealthily 2 days out of 7 it will, over time, not overnight cause issues. I don't agree with you saying healthy people's blood sugars don't spike.. of course they will, if you eat well 5 days then eat a massive pizza and family size bar of chocolate that would cause a spike.

Lean healthy people are not wired differently, if you eat large amounts of food and sugar your blood sugars will spike. For me eating silly amounts of unhealthy foods like that some days will lead to craving those foods other days too and is long term not a good idea.

As smudgie said, and was my point from the start if you want a slice of pizza (or chip butty) or a bit of chocolate have some... denying yourself all week then eating the whole thing is counterproductive and basically is the bad eating habits that lead to health issues. And is effectively an example of broken willpower, as had you not denied yourself all week you perhaps wouldn't feel the need to eat a family sized bar on Saturday out of frustration?