[Tom4784]

It's the government's fault for not implementing measures earlier, it's the government's fault for allowing that cretin to flout Lockdown rules and cause disillusionment within the populace.

Anti-maskers are stupid beyond compare, but it's ultimately the government's fault for how bad things are because of their unwillingness to act when they could have. Stupid people will always be stupid, but we should expect more from the government. I imagine the criticism of the government would be far harsher were it not a Tory government.

A lot of the people that are determined to shield Boris would be building the guillotines if any other party did what the tories did in this pandemic.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's the government's fault for not implementing measures earlier, it's the government's fault for allowing that cretin to flout Lockdown rules and cause disillusionment within the populace.

Anti-maskers are stupid beyond compare, but it's ultimately the government's fault for how bad things are because of their unwillingness to act when they could have. Stupid people will always be stupid, but we should expect more from the government. I imagine the criticism of the government would be far harsher were it not a Tory government.

A lot of the people that are determined to shield Boris would be building the guillotines if any other party did what the tories did in this pandemic.

it's an individuals responsibility to look after their own health. Too much reliance is placed on government. That doesn't mean i excuse the government for some pretty crass decisions along the way, but it is within individuals hands to make sure they are safe.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's an individuals responsibility to look after their own health. Too much reliance is placed on government. That doesn't mean i excuse the government for some pretty crass decisions along the way, but it is within individuals hands to make sure they are safe.

Not during pandemic it isn't! Only the govt have the authority to say it's too great a risk for you to go to work or school.
And with almost 1000 people a day dying that time is now.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not during pandemic it isn't! Only the govt have the authority to say it's too great a risk for you to go to work or school.
And with almost 1000 people a day dying that time is now.

This, exactly right.
This letting the government off the hook when they have all the advice and data while not making it all known to the public, is sickening.

Of course the people in power must direct as they would as to riots and any other threats to society.

So I've no agreement with those protecting the government over the people.


That's up to them however.

As for back to normal, whatever normal is to be for likely a long time to come.
I think it's going to be another year of uncertainty with no one knowing what effects will come from late Autumn this year again.

I'd love to think things could be far better by the summer, which there may be many positive signs.
However I fear problems for the foreseeable future.
Hope I'm wrong but I think next year sometime will be more likely when real improvement can be possibly secured more permanently.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's the government's fault for not implementing measures earlier, it's the government's fault for allowing that cretin to flout Lockdown rules and cause disillusionment within the populace.

Anti-maskers are stupid beyond compare, but it's ultimately the government's fault for how bad things are because of their unwillingness to act when they could have. Stupid people will always be stupid, but we should expect more from the government. I imagine the criticism of the government would be far harsher were it not a Tory government.

A lot of the people that are determined to shield Boris would be building the guillotines if any other party did what the tories did in this pandemic.