FAQ |
Members List |
Calendar |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics. |
Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
13-05-2021, 04:01 PM | #26 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
Yes Olders Changing their Votes. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:03 PM | #27 | ||
|
|||
Remembering Kerry
|
I don't think Labour is dead at all.
I wouldn't be in it if I thought that. I'll do all I can as a member to ensure despite our wide differences as members we keep this grand coalition together. Or we are doomed to only be the opposition of the UK, for as long as the UK still exists that is. I concede, it is always the case that the Cons are the natural party of government. Unfortunately. There's a long way to go before writing off the Party. To be a broken record, there is a way, in my view to unite the majority of the party. Plus also have the full backing of every other UK party except for the Cons. That is moves are made to have the Party conference adopt electoral reform and bring in PR. No referenda, just bring it in the election after the next. It can be done, and while it will remove any likelihood of Labour governing alone with a majority after 2028/29. It will also ensure never again can the Cons govern with overall majorities on only 42% of the votes cast. It will then be for Labour to forge alliances with Parties more to the left of centre. Governing with full cooperation of Parliament and majority support of the people. The Cons and they're supporters would be near in frenzied panic. |
||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:03 PM | #28 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
Tories don't fool me , Boris is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. He's a bumbling idiot. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:04 PM | #29 | ||
|
|||
Banned
|
I don't think that will ever happen, for the most part. There's a lot of people willing to vote on the issues, but too many simply vote out of party loyalty. The only chance of change would be with the natural passing of the older generations, and rise of the younger ones.
|
||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:07 PM | #30 | |||
|
||||
Senior Moment
|
Yep, they're a worse party than Labour behind the scenes, they're just masters of spin, and PR, unlike Labour
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:07 PM | #31 | |||
|
||||
You know my methods
|
Quote:
to ignore that and just say he is rubbish is pretty futile and its part of the problem the left have right now |
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:09 PM | #32 | |||
|
||||
Senior Moment
|
Quote:
The problem isn't with the left, it's that Labour is an ailing party that has forgotten who they stand for.
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:12 PM | #33 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
He is rubbish. Saying "Oh the election results" just makes it look worse, not better.
|
||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:14 PM | #34 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
Could take 20 years |
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:15 PM | #35 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
We just need to remind ourselves of how Boris handled the Covid outbreak, to see just what a complete waste of space he is.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:15 PM | #36 | |||
|
||||
You know my methods
|
Quote:
He has a rubbish job - no He is rubbish at his job - judge him at the ballot-box That may be your opinion but for the majority in your country they simply disagree with you and have done for many, many years |
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:17 PM | #37 | |||
|
||||
self-oscillating
|
the only reason the tories are in power is because there is no viable alternative. We need an electable alternative, in any form now quite frankly.
At some point labour will have to come to terms with the reality that they just represent too many disparate views. It has to have cohesive policies that everyone in the party can get behind and that are both realistic and attractive to the voter |
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:17 PM | #38 | ||
|
|||
Banned
|
Winning an election doesn't make someone a good PM, it just means they fooled enough people into voting for them. Tony Blair, David Cameron, Theresa May, Boris. All were terrible and they all won at least one election. I do have some sympathy for May though, since it's clear she was just there to take the scorn of the public for the deal they'd come up with just so Boris could swoop in with a similar deal at the last minute and be treated like a hero for it.
Boris has been a terrible PM, people's hero worship of him is misplaced and concerning. |
||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:23 PM | #39 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
I don't give a tinkers toss who disagrees. |
||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 04:30 PM | #40 | |||
|
||||
You know my methods
|
Yes but you may as well say that Queen are a rubbish group because you dont like them even though most people think they are great by that logic
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 05:48 PM | #41 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
|
||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 05:59 PM | #42 | |||
|
||||
self-oscillating
|
the point being that if the majority of the country thought queen were crap, they wouldnt have been successful. I never liked queen, but i was always in the minority.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 06:01 PM | #43 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
The idea that "crap" can't be popular is false. History is littered with crap leaders voted in by a blind public. Last edited by Marsh.; 13-05-2021 at 06:04 PM. |
||
Reply With Quote |
13-05-2021, 07:15 PM | #44 | ||
|
|||
Banned
|
Quote:
It doesn't matter what he does, tory supporters will line up for a chance to suck on his ring. |
||
Reply With Quote |
Reply |
|
|