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one of the victims was a very young girl .... i just can't comprehend how someone could do that
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one of the victims was a very young girl .... i just can't comprehend how someone could do that


He was out of his mind.
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What a ****. Glad he’s dead. I think all shooters/terrorists should just be killed on site rather than sending them to jail where they get the glory and fame they want
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One of them
Women he killed, he knew her.




He had a registered
fire arm.
To be confirmed which gun that was.


2 others are Injured
in Hospital now
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Just so tragic.
It's sickening anyone loses life like this unnecessarily however a child too.

Really awful, heartbreaking.
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The Child he killed
was a 3 year old girl,

Just Confirmed on the news


The 2 Women were aged 51 & 56

The 2 Men were aged 43 & 59
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as the details of this are emerging it is so shocking people will be left scarred for life after what they witnessed, endured and heard.
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Women he killed, he knew her.




He had a registered
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To be confirmed which gun that was.


2 others are Injured
in Hospital now
Guessing it might be his Mum maybe
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Vermin. I can't really describe how angry and sickened I am by this...
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Well you know the world is going bonkers when Plymouth is having a terrorist attack.

Imo shooting five people at random is a terrorist attack, whether it's ISIS related or not.
No, not necessairly.

Terrorism is normally political. This could have been mental health related.

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And this will still be deemed "not terrorism". The world needs to wake up and realise that attacks by these people are increasing, and are ABSOLUTELY terrorism.

These men are radicalised online, full to the brim with hatred (mostly for women, but also for anyone who isn't "one of them", as with any other terrorism) and commit horrific acts of violence. It's not "not terrorism" just because it's in the name of 4chan and not some deity or other.
Incorrect, in my opinion.

Yes, attacks are increasing. It's not mostly against women. It's mostly against those who do not follow certain ideology regardless of sex..... ie religion based. FGM and religion based where the men are superior and women are just a commidity, yes, but in regards to terrorism I don't think you can say it's mainly women.

When a guy drove into people on the london bridge, he was aiming for people, not just women.

When Lee Rigby was slatered on our streets etc etc

Yes, online radicalism is huge. The people they recruit are vunerable themselves.
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The mother of the Plymouth gunman, Maxine Davison, and three-year-old Sophie Martyn have been named among the five victims of his shooting spree.

Ms Davison, 50, was shot and killed by her 22-year-old son Jake Davison at her home on Biddick Drive, Plymouth, on Thursday evening.

Davison went on to kill three-year-old Sophie, her father Lee Martyn, Stephen Washington and Kate Shepherd.

His attack lasted about six minutes before he turned the gun on himself.

In online videos Davison spoke of being "beaten down" and "defeated by life".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-58206101
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND9oW0VTIT4

This is mental health.

Psychosis and delusions of grandeur.
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This is mental health.

Psychosis and delusions of grandeur.
In that video he started off making a parallel about his struggle and that of humanity against the robots in terminator but ended by saying he imagined he was a terminator fighting to end humanity

the veil slipped
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In that video he started off making a parallel about his struggle and that of humanity against the robots in terminator but ended by saying he imagined he was a terminator fighting to end humanity

the veil slipped
Well his thought process was very distorted.

It's an extreme case of mental health gone very wrong.

He acted out on his thoughts.

It's a tragedy for all involved.
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i don't understand people need to say ... nope that wasn't terrorism ... because, i'm sorry but it was an act of terror under any sensible definition. People wanting to classify it otherwise can precede it with political or religious if it fits better, but it's still an act of terror
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i don't understand people need to say ... nope that wasn't terrorism ... because, i'm sorry but it was an act of terror under any sensible definition. People wanting to classify it otherwise can preceed it with political or religeous if it fits better, but it's still an act of terror
Well that's your opinion, but we have PACE and the criminal prosecution service for a reason and they would not be convicted of a terrorist related offence unless it was political.

Even the media and police have said this is not terrorist related.

Just because something causes 'terror' does not make it terrorism.
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In that video he started off making a parallel about his struggle and that of humanity against the robots in terminator but ended by saying he imagined he was a terminator fighting to end humanity

the veil slipped
How the hell did this killer have a gun licence ?
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How the hell did this killer have a gun licence ?

Maybe 2 years back
he was a normal bloke
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Maybe 2 years back
he was a normal bloke
Don't we all think the police are keeping a keen watch on people with gun licences ? esp if they show any signs of mental illness ~ this could have been stopped ~ no ones doing the checks obv.
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he was a normal bloke
he would have been 20 and so way should own a gun at that age
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-51-hated.html

[The adopted three-year-old girl and her father, 43,
who were shot dead at random by 'incel' Plymouth gunman
as they walked home and were taken to hospital
where her mother works after rampage that left six dead
Jake Davison, 22, shot and killed mother, 50, at a
property in the Keyham area of Plymouth, Devon, last night
He then went outside and shot dead Sophie Martyn, 3, and
her father Lee, 43, with a pump-action shotgun
Davison then killed Stephen Washington, 59,
in nearby parkland, before shooting
dead Kate Shepherd, 66,
He also shot two other local residents
who are now being treated in
hospital for non-life
threatening injuries
Davison spoke of affinity
with 'incel' movement
whose misogynist members
have carried
out mass murder
YouTube and Facebook deleted his
hate-filled accounts - but only on the
day after he carried out massacre]
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Luke Pollard MP (Labour and Co-operative politician)
Live on Ch4HDnews
has says people look out for one and another
in Plymouth.

He says give the Police the space
to look into this crime.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

The Incel group
Active in the Canada, USA, and UK

An expert (Ch4HDnews) says there are around 10,000
in the UK.


In the USA she says its 100,000's
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His Gun was taken off him late last year (after an Assault claim)
but that Pump Action Shot Gun was returned to him last month


Ch4HDnews Live.


Their reporter Clair Fallon
was brought up there.
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