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rusticgal · 06-02-2022, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

I’d rather Charles and her just disappeared out of sight ... I’m truly amazed that she has the audacity to even show her face in public

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She is Charles' wife of course she is going to be seen with him. I think she was a brave woman to marry Charles...especially knowing she was disliked so much. The backlash she endured...and she never moaned once. You can see how happy they are together.

jet · 06-02-2022, 12:58 PM

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Totally agree....like I said earlier, I hated what they did to Diana but its clear they were always meant to be. Charles and Camilla are clearly suited and happy together. She has kept a low profile and I have grown to like her and respect her for that.

Yeah, its not as if their affair broke up Diana and Charles's marriage, and then she dumped him - its been a true love story really.

Harry on Camilla:

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/uks-...amilla-2751780

[In 2005, Harry rejected the image of her as a "wicked stepmother", describing her as a "wonderful woman and she's made our father very, very happy, which is the most important thing.
"William and I love her to bits."]

bitontheslide · 06-02-2022, 01:06 PM

both diana and charles had affairs. That was never a happy relationship. I'm sure they were both aware of the situation going into the marriage.

I don't know Camilla .... what she is called just doesn't bother me. It's not like calling someone king or queen means anything these days

Zizu · 06-02-2022, 02:02 PM

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both diana and charles had affairs. That was never a happy relationship. I'm sure they were both aware of the situation going into the marriage.

I don't know Camilla .... what she is called just doesn't bother me. It's not like calling someone king or queen means anything these days

No comparison at all !!

Di had reason to look around when she realised she was in a loveless marriage and he’d been cheating on her before and after their fecking wedding day

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Zizu · 06-02-2022, 02:03 PM

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Its an actual crying shame Ann is the next Queen

My vote will go to King Harry

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Zizu · 06-02-2022, 02:06 PM

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I adored Diana, and the sad thing is she and Charles were just not suited at all. Neither of them were saints. It was around 5 years after their marriage before Charles resumed his affair with Camilla, although maintaining his friendship with her during those years drove Diana wildly jealous as she knew his heart really belonged to Camilla. By that time Diana was having affairs of her own.
Long after the divorce Diana said Charles was a good man and one of the kindest men she had ever known.

The Crown (written by an anti - monarchist) is mainly fiction but many people believe its way OTT portrayal of Diana, Charles and Camilla is the truth. It really isn’t.
Camilla has come a long way from getting rotten eggs thrown at her in the street and having to hide indoors for months. She has quietly worked at her many charities and has devoted herself to supporting Charles and the Queen all these years. I never thought I’d say this, because I loved Diana, but she has earned the respect she now has from many in the public and the Queen. Fair play to her.

That’s not the version I read / saw .

I was under the impression the terrible two were having an affair before the wedding day until well after ... and in between as well .

I’ve never heard about that 5 year gap you refer to .. and I don’t believe it either

Sounds like complete hogwash

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Zizu · 06-02-2022, 02:08 PM

I’m done on this topic ...

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jet · 06-02-2022, 02:31 PM

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That’s not the version I read / saw .

I was under the impression the terrible two were having an affair before the wedding day until well after ... and in between as well .

I’ve never heard about that 5 year gap you refer to .. and I don’t believe it either

Sounds like complete hogwash

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Their affair stopped after the wedding, but they remained close friends, which obviously bothered Diana. She knew where his heart lay, so in a way he was still being unfaithful to Diana, just not physically.
When the marriage had irretrievably broken down after about 5 years, the affair resumed. The only other version that portrays it any differently is the mostly fictionilised series the Crown.
But if you believe differently, fine - many people still do.

jet · 06-02-2022, 02:34 PM

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No comparison at all !!

Di had reason to look around when she realised she was in a loveless marriage

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I agree.

Zizu · 06-02-2022, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

Their affair stopped after the wedding, but they remained close friends, which obviously bothered Diana. She knew where his heart lay, so in a way he was still being unfaithful to Diana, just not physically.
When the marriage had irretrievably broken down after about 5 years, the affair resumed. The only other version that portrays it any differently is the mostly fictionilised series the Crown.
But if you believe differently, fine - many people still do.

Close friends... yeah right ..

Really done now

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Toy Soldier · 06-02-2022, 02:53 PM

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Their affair stopped after the wedding, but they remained close friends

I don't believe for a second you're that sheltered or naive jet!! "Yes yes we did used to be having an affair, but now we're just pals!"

jet · 06-02-2022, 03:24 PM

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I don't believe for a second you're that sheltered or naive jet!! "Yes yes we did used to be having an affair, but now we're just pals!"

Well from all I've read, watched and listened to over the years, I do believe it, so there you go!

bitontheslide · 06-02-2022, 04:02 PM

i can never un-hear what charles said in that recording

smudgie · 06-02-2022, 06:41 PM

Pleased to hear it.
Queen consort is what she is entitled to if married to a King.

Zizu · 06-02-2022, 06:47 PM

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i can never un-hear what charles said in that recording

Pray tell

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glib · 06-02-2022, 06:56 PM

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"The monarch" doesn't rule over anything at all, not even England, in any way, let alone the other commonwealth/ex-empire nations. We have a symbolic monarchy, not an active one. You do understand that, right? The UK is ruled by a gaggle of Eton toffs headed up by a scraggy-haired snake oil salesman, The Queen has absolutely no real power of any kind (other than being an exceptionally wealthy lady; but the Royals don't even leverage that power the way other wealthy people do).

It’s a figure of speech…. I did call it ‘constitutional’ a few posts before too

I can say Liz rules over Britain for all I care, it doesn’t mean I see her as some sort of dictator ordering Boris what to do.

And she is not just ‘an exceptionally wealthy lady’; she can declare war, appoint Lords (who debate and approve the bills of the commons), and eventually she approves the bills of parliament into law., all of which affect your life and my life.

LeatherTrumpet · 06-02-2022, 06:57 PM

She has been staunch

a fitting honour for a great loyal lady

glib · 06-02-2022, 06:59 PM

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Also cheated on her husband with Charlie behind the back of a newly wed Di as well

Millions won’t forget and forgive

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Philip did worse

And no one is going to be refusing Camilla her crown because of something that happened in the 80s, and no one cares about anymore

glib · 06-02-2022, 07:01 PM

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They also loved Harry soooooo

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We did, then he left us and kept on moaning about us all. Why would we love him.

Toy Soldier · 06-02-2022, 07:18 PM

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And she is not just ‘an exceptionally wealthy lady’; she can declare war,

she cannot

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appoint Lords (who debate and approve the bills of the commons)

I guess? But the Lords has been pretty toothless in recent years.

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and eventually she approves the bills of parliament into law., all of which affect your life and my life.

PURELY ceremonial/a formality, if a law went through the houses and was refused by the monarch we'd be a Republic faster than you can say "we only have a monarchy for PR".

It's a puppet monarchy. As it should be of course. The concept of hereditary rule was always gross.