[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

As for the willy penetrating the fanny, yeah that's just not acceptable

Not sure that is a vagina? it is pride after all...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not sure that is a vagina? it is pride after all...

Looks like it's supposed to be

[user104658]

It's being entirely hijacked, and many of the people who will ultimately be worst affected by this hijacking are giving their blessing - often on the sidelines clapping feverishly - in the name of unquestioning inclusion. Because of the historical context, I do understand why many people find it challenging to draw a line, but it's sad and ultimately worrying. The bubble will burst.

[Alf]

The authorities that the public pay for are encouraging this by not dealing with it.

It should be dealt with in the same way they'd deal with a streaker at a sporting event. The streaker is chased until caught and taken away.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Swan

Do you not agree that it's becoming over sexualised in what is promoted as being a 'family friendly environment' though?

It's hard to remember what we'd think as kids being adults now, but im sure seeing a man in a bunny mask walking down the street with his knob out would just frighten kids. It's becoming less about liberation and 'pride' and more about 'sticking it to the man' imo. And the problem is any criticism for the most part is met with cries of homophobia, which isn't the case at all.

Yeah I can't disagree.

The actual meaning of pride is lost, like I say I think it's an excuse for some to just wear outrageous outfits, often for attention and to try get laid. They couldn't care less about the actual meaning of it...it's just a big shag fest party

[arista]

Yes Alf
this Pride should say NO Children,

[The Slim Reaper]

I thought Alf had made a thread about his favourite U2 song

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Yeah I can't disagree.

The actual meaning of pride is lost, like I say I think it's an excuse for some to just wear outrageous outfits, often for attention and to try get laid. They couldn't care less about the actual meaning of it...it's just a big shag fest party

That's quite sad isn't it?

[Swan]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Yeah I can't disagree.

The actual meaning of pride is lost, like I say I think it's an excuse for some to just wear outrageous outfits, often for attention and to try get laid. They couldn't care less about the actual meaning of it...it's just a big shag fest party

And the thing is, there is nothing wrong with all the above, as long as it's done away from kids and not on public streets, there'd be no issue. But when that kind of thing is promoted as family friendly, and kids are being exposed to sex, suggestiveness (in a very real form) that's when Pride starts to lose all credibility imo. You have to ask what the ultimate goal is now, what is Pride trying to achieve?!

[Oliver_W]

There are some real creeps who actually want to encourage "kink"' at supposedly family friendly Pride events...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Alf
this Pride should say NO Children,

But lots of gay couples have children so why should they be excluded

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

But lots of gay couples have children so why should they be excluded

Yes but it is Nowdays Adults Only

They are Sluts in Parade


The Children,
can stay with someone who is not
going

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but it is Nowdays Adults Only

They are Sluts in Parade


The Children,
can stay with someone who is not
going

You can't have an adults only rule for something that goes through Public main streets and cities

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's quite sad isn't it?

Yes and no. If you're out to have fun then I see no problem as long as it's not hurting anyone else. I imagine pride means more to older generations who have had to fight more for equality. The meaning of it is often lost. The real meaning is an acceptance and to be able to live without persecution for loving someone of the same sex.

Originally Posted by Swan

And the thing is, there is nothing wrong with all the above, as long as it's done away from kids and not on public streets, there'd be no issue. But when that kind of thing is promoted as family friendly, and kids are being exposed to sex, suggestiveness (in a very real form) that's when Pride starts to lose all credibility imo. You have to ask what the ultimate goal is now, what is Pride trying to achieve?!

Suggestive sex and nudism are completely different imo...but I don't think either belong in pride marches or pride events.

As for children attending, of course they should. This is where real change happens. Out with the old and in with the new. Newer generations should be taught to be open minded and treat people with respect. It's older generations who are often behind the times and homophobia is steeped in beliefs passed on through parents and generations.....and religion.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but it is Nowdays Adults Only

They are Sluts in Parade


The Children,
can stay with someone who is not
going

Do you ever post something that isn't robotic nonsense and has some content to it? I like you, but you don't half talk some bollox.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You can't have an adults only rule for something that goes through Public main streets and cities

Things change all the time,


If I was in charge of a City

I would put up signs telling all children to return home


Gay Sluts on the Street
is not suitable for under 16 year olds

[arista]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Do you ever post something that isn't robotic nonsense and has some content to it? I like you, but you don't half talk some bollox.

I like You TC


But under
16 year olds do not need Gay Sluts Performing
in front of them


Sign Of The Times

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by arista

Things change all the time,


If I was in charge of a City

I would put up signs telling all children to return home


Gay Sluts on the Street
is not suitable for under 16 year olds

Thank god you're not in charge then.

I can be a slut. Nothing wrong with being a slut.

I love the dick and absolutely nothing wrong with that.... The problem comes in when you dress too provocative

[arista]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Thank god you're not in charge then.

I can be a slut. Nothing wrong with being a slut.

I love the dick and absolutely nothing wrong with that.... The problem comes in when you dress too provocative

Sure Shake it all about


Not a problem
you are an Adult,

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Thank god you're not in charge then.

I can be a slut. Nothing wrong with being a slut.

I love the dick and absolutely nothing wrong with that.... The problem comes in when you dress too provocative

No-one needs to know it though, and it definitely doesn't need to be flaunted at events which are nominally family friendly.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No-one needs to know it though, and it definitely doesn't need to be flaunted at events which are nominally family friendly.

Yes they do need to know it to a degree as it helps getting laid.l and it's an atmosphere where a lot of gay men will be.

Show a bit of leg off...I'm partial to some short shorts and a nice tan as it does my complexion wonders.

Like I say, it depends how provocative..... Would I wear a jockstrap or a gimp mask *shudders*, no I would not and I don't think it's acceptable....if that's your thing then save it for the bedroom

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Yes and no. If you're out to have fun then I see no problem as long as it's not hurting anyone else. I imagine pride means more to older generations who have had to fight more for equality. The meaning of it is often lost. The real meaning is an acceptance and to be able to live without persecution for loving someone of the same sex.




Suggestive sex and nudism are completely different imo...but I don't think either belong in pride marches or pride events.

As for children attending, of course they should. This is where real change happens. Out with the old and in with the new. Newer generations should be taught to be open minded and treat people with respect. It's older generations who are often behind the times and homophobia is steeped in beliefs passed on through parents and generations.....and religion.

Yep agree with all that

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Yes they do need to know it to a degree as it helps getting laid.l and it's an atmosphere where a lot of gay men will be.

Show a bit of leg off...I'm partial to some short shorts and a nice tan as it does my complexion wonders.

Like I say, it depends how provocative..... Would I wear a jockstrap or a gimp mask *shudders*, no I would not and I don't think it's acceptable....if that's your thing then save it for the bedroom

Well sure, that's what I mean. The only purpose Pride seems to have anymore is for people to get laid, and of course to pad the wallets of those running it. Maybe the deadly sin it should be named after nowadays is Gluttony

There are simply no real battles left to be won, so of course it's meaningless now. The occasional random homophobe is more likely to face backlash than any gay guy, and acceptance isn't going to be won by the freakshow Pride has become.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Well sure, that's what I mean. The only purpose Pride seems to have anymore is for people to get laid, and of course to pad the wallets of those running it. Maybe the deadly sin it should be named after nowadays is Gluttony

There are simply no real battles left to be won, so of course it's meaningless now. The occasional random homophobe is more likely to face backlash than any gay guy, and acceptance isn't going to be won by the freakshow Pride has become.

It isn't meaningless though or shouldn't be, it should be a celebration of all that has been achieved and a reminder of those who fought hard for gay rights. Unfortunately all this kind of stuff actually damages that legacy rather than celebrates it imo

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Well sure, that's what I mean. The only purpose Pride seems to have anymore is for people to get laid, and of course to pad the wallets of those running it. Maybe the deadly sin it should be named after nowadays is Gluttony

There are simply no real battles left to be won, so of course it's meaningless now. The occasional random homophobe is more likely to face backlash than any gay guy, and acceptance isn't going to be won by the freakshow Pride has become.

No it's not the only purpose, but I think for quite a lot it is.

Ohh, there's loads of battles to be won....is pride the answer? Yes part of it regardless of people's personal reasons for attending. It highlights that's it's OK who you love, it's OK to be LGBT.
It's more than our message, it's an international message. You can still be imprisoned for being gay, you can still be stones to death forr being gay, you can still be viciously assaulted and verbally abused for it, you can still be bullied for being gay etc so to say there are no real battles left to be won is astonishingly ignorant!... It's not just the issues in this country, but fighting for acceptance globally that certain behaviours, views, beliefs are wrong.