[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She just answered Piers questions, she barely said anything really just that being a girl and growing up as a girl into a woman isn't the same as getting surgery to look like a woman, how can anyone argue against that?

No it's a lot worse for transwomen.

You think you've got it hard, well, try being a transwomen!!

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But they are transwomen/men though, how is that denying anyone's existence? I'm happy to call anyone by whatever name they want etc but biology matters too especially for women. You talk about oppressors etc but you haven't acknowledged at all that women have always been oppressed because of our sex not our gender identity, just look at what's happening in the states right now fgs, that's 100% discriminating, controlling and oppressing women because of our Biology. Self ID is threatening to eradicate that right for women and girls to name themselves as such based on our biology, in fact you talk about people's "right to exist" what about our right to exist as a biological class? Why is that not important?

And transwomen are more oppressed.

I don't know what it is about tibbs obsession with trans. So many threads.

I can't even be bothered to debate it anymore. Some people get it, some don't.