[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't know if it is necessarily a good thing and that's what I was wondering when I posted it. I do think the Queen represented a connection from today's generation right back to the 1950s though. If there's a thread from that time way back then till today she is that thread.



People now who are over 60 years old have only ever known her as head of state and all the time she's been gracious, steadfast, dutiful, good humoured etc etc in her role. Compare that to our last few PMs who have all been forced to quit in disarray after only a few years. She's a million times more popular than any of our recent leaders so I'm not sorry that she was our head of state and not them.

I get that, most of our leaders were awful too, I suppose my point is how could people ever have a negative opinion of her or any opinion at all , if they never really knew her or what her actual opinions were on any of the real big issues of the last 70 years?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I get that, most of our leaders were awful too, I suppose my point is how could people ever have a negative opinion of her or any opinion at all , if they never really knew her or what her actual opinions were on any of the real big issues of the last 70 years?

I think we saw how progressive she was by being a big part in ending a lot of the colonisation her ancestors did and was known to be a massive supporters of things like Black Rights, Female Rights and LGBT rights as well as trying to bring all nations together regardless of their race or religion.

The fact she spent her whole life visiting so many countries and meeting so many people and always had a smile on her face and happy to shake the hands of the normal common working class people says a lot really

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I get that, most of our leaders were awful too, I suppose my point is how could people ever have a negative opinion of her or any opinion at all , if they never really knew her or what her actual opinions were on any of the real big issues of the last 70 years?

Yeah I guess she deliberately sat outside of the big issues so that she would never invoke negative opinions. I'm sure she did have views on them and I expect it was often a big burden to her that she never could give her real opinion. She presumably thought preserving the monarchy was more important but I do think it would be fascinating to know what she really thought

It's not easy to do the role how she did it though, Charles has caused more controversy in his time already than she did in her lengthy reign

[Denver]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah I guess she deliberately sat outside of the big issues so that she would never invoke negative opinions. I'm sure she did have views on them and I expect it was often a big burden to her that she never could give her real opinion. She presumably thought preserving the monarchy was more important but I do think it would be fascinating to know what she really thought

It's not easy to do the role how she did it though, Charles has caused more controversy in his time already than she did in her lengthy reign

She has done remarkably well especially when you consider she had the power to overthrow the government and veto certain decisions yet always chose to keep it down to democracy like the public want

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah I guess she deliberately sat outside of the big issues so that she would never invoke negative opinions. I'm sure she did have views on them and I expect it was often a big burden to her that she never could give her real opinion. She presumably thought preserving the monarchy was more important but I do think it would be fascinating to know what she really thought

It's not easy to do the role how she did it though, Charles has caused more controversy in his time already than she did in her lengthy reign

Charles has said that he won't comment when he becomes king, but the horse has already bolted, we know where his bias lies

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah I guess she deliberately sat outside of the big issues so that she would never invoke negative opinions. I'm sure she did have views on them and I expect it was often a big burden to her that she never could give her real opinion. She presumably thought preserving the monarchy was more important but I do think it would be fascinating to know what she really thought



It's not easy to do the role how she did it though, Charles has caused more controversy in his time already than she did in her lengthy reign

I wrote a big reply to you there but I deleted it again and maybe we'll have the conversation another day, I genuinely don't mean to be disrespectful so I will leave you to it and it will be a good debate sometime soon

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wrote a big reply to you there but I deleted it again and maybe we'll have the conversation another day, I genuinely don't mean to be disrespectful so I will leave you to it and it will be a good debate sometime soon

Just as well because I was just going to bed then haha. I'm sure you wouldn't have been disrespectful though, always good to get a different perspective!

[Cherie]

Even though the Queen had to remain neutral, I think at times you knew exactly what she was thinking, her meeting with Donald Trump springs to mind