[Christmas Dynasnow]

JP's popularity is partly because he is both intellectual and vulnerable

Also he is a major kick-back figure to the wokery, nacissistic compassion, faux outrage on behalf of others movement and does not pretend to accept the delusion that a man can be a woman etc

plus he is on Joe R0ogan a lot and dat helps

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

JP's popularity is partly because he is both intellectual and vulnerable

Also he is a major kick-back figure to the wokery, nacissistic compassion, faux outrage on behalf of others movement and does not pretend to accept the delusion that a man can be a woman etc

plus he is on Joe R0ogan a lot and dat helps

Peterson is nothing more than a loser troll and nazi scum

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Peterson is nothing more than a loser troll and nazi scum

[The Slim Reaper]

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He's got some questionable views on why men are violent as well and who should "fix" that. Seems like a very irresponsible opinion to send out there to women and seems like victim blaming/Incel type thinking

“Violent attacks are what happens when men do not have partners, Mr Peterson says, and society needs to work to make sure those men are married. ‘The cure for that is monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges,’ [he says.] Enforced monogamy is, to him, simply a rational solution. Otherwise, women will only go for the most high-status men, he explains, and that couldn’t make either gender happy in the end.


“‘Half the men fail,’ he says, meaning they don’t procreate. ‘And no one cares about the men who fail.’

“I laugh, because it is absurd.

“‘You’re laughing about them,’ he says, giving me a disappointed look. ‘That’s because you’re female.’”

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/...t-men-monogamy

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He's got some questionable views on why men are violent as well and who should "fix" that. Seems like a very irresponsible opinion to send out there to women and seems like victim blaming/Incel type thinking

“Violent attacks are what happens when men do not have partners, Mr Peterson says, and society needs to work to make sure those men are married. ‘The cure for that is monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges,’ [he says.] Enforced monogamy is, to him, simply a rational solution. Otherwise, women will only go for the most high-status men, he explains, and that couldn’t make either gender happy in the end.


“‘Half the men fail,’ he says, meaning they don’t procreate. ‘And no one cares about the men who fail.’

“I laugh, because it is absurd.

“‘You’re laughing about them,’ he says, giving me a disappointed look. ‘That’s because you’re female.’”

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/...t-men-monogamy

That's what makes him so dangerous - he has demonstrably written books that have helped unhealthy young men develop a healthier attitude towards life and existence, but on the other side of that he is a thought leader for the incel community with his nonsense about women/forced monogamy etc.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He's got some questionable views on why men are violent as well and who should "fix" that. Seems like a very irresponsible opinion to send out there to women and seems like victim blaming/Incel type thinking

“Violent attacks are what happens when men do not have partners, Mr Peterson says, and society needs to work to make sure those men are married. ‘The cure for that is monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges,’ [he says.] Enforced monogamy is, to him, simply a rational solution. Otherwise, women will only go for the most high-status men, he explains, and that couldn’t make either gender happy in the end.


“‘Half the men fail,’ he says, meaning they don’t procreate. ‘And no one cares about the men who fail.’

“I laugh, because it is absurd.

“‘You’re laughing about them,’ he says, giving me a disappointed look. ‘That’s because you’re female.’”

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/...t-men-monogamy

That's straight out of the incel/redpill playbook, the most concerning part of that really is that it's not his own conclusions ... it's a repetition of that mindset that he's deliberately playing into. It's the same rhetoric leveraged by Andrew Tate.

It's a sad self-fulfilling prophecy that's actively creating a generation of young men who are unsuitable for meaningful, genuine relationships... who are then angry about that... making them even less likely to find any sort of happiness.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's what makes him so dangerous - he has demonstrably written books that have helped unhealthy young men develop a healthier attitude towards life and existence, but on the other side of that he is a thought leader for the incel community with his nonsense about women/forced monogamy etc.

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

That's straight out of the incel/redpill playbook, the most concerning part of that really is that it's not his own conclusions ... it's a repetition of that mindset that he's deliberately playing into. It's the same rhetoric leveraged by Andrew Tate.

It's a sad self-fulfilling prophecy that's actively creating a generation of young men who are unsuitable for meaningful, genuine relationships... who are then angry about that... making them even less likely to find any sort of happiness.

That whole "culture" is absolutely terrifying to me. The attitudes of the likes of the Andrew Tates of the world (and they're springing up everywhere) is so scary as a woman. The way we're spoken about like we're an inferior species to men and must be owned or controlled. It feels so dehumanising. Does Jordan Peterson really think about us in the way the Andrew Tates do? I don't know, he doesn't seem to be an actual sex offender/human traffic endorser but his egging these guys on with some of the statements he makes certainly doesn't help society

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

In this specific clip I don't think he's actually talking about literal god or hell... but I've seen a few recent similar clips of him where his speech style gets borderline dictatorial.


Salesmen of Pennsylvania!

Then also clips where he's in interviews getting himself tearful and upset over some of the questions being asked. I think what LT describes as his "vulnerability". I would counter that he's been completely derailed by infamy and is currently an absolute mess of contradictions. A ranting ball of internal contradictions. It must be incredibly stressful and it's starting to burst out at the seams.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

In this specific clip I don't think he's actually talking about literal god or hell... but I've seen a few recent similar clips of him where his speech style gets borderline dictatorial.


Salesmen of Pennsylvania!

Then also clips where he's in interviews getting himself tearful and upset over some of the questions being asked. I think what LT describes as his "vulnerability". I would counter that he's been completely derailed by infamy and is currently an absolute mess of contradictions. A ranting ball of internal contradictions. It must be incredibly stressful and it's starting to burst out at the seams.

He has always played in religious margins.. Specifically around his interpretation of Jungian philosophy. I think he is being literal in this clip, but he always leaves himself enough wiggle room that if he was challenged on how literal he was being, he would be able to squeak (literally) away.