[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think that's what people are saying though that yes he's done good things for men on the one hand but he's also on the other made very questionable/could be interpreted as pretty incel like (and pushing responsibility for violent men on to women)

I think he's possibly become a bit more extreme since being elevated to this celebrity status, I think the principles in 12 Rules for Life are pretty good though

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

He's a redpill icon more than an incel icon, these concepts are similar but not identical; Redpill is all about the idea of "acceptance of reality" and control of that reality. The inherent problem is that it's a warped reality. You can see that in your description of what he's doing - "controlling rage rather than embracing it". Controlling rage is a form of embracing rage, it rests on the premise that the rage was inevitable and that the answer is to harness it... which is a completely unhealthy starting point, and doomed to failure from the outset. He can't even harness his own rage.

I thought when I was writing that that I was wording it badly. I didn't mean to 'control rage' as if it's some sort of inevitably, I meant more to take control of the other parts of your life to avoid rage entering it.

I certainly don't think treating rage as something to harness is healthy, that's very Sith like