[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by arista

Alec Baldwin to be charged with Involuntary Manslaughter



His Lawyers
are going to fight it.

That's a bit harsh isn't it?

It appears to have been an accident from his perspective.

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That's a bit harsh isn't it?

It appears to have been an accident from his perspective.

not really, he was the films producer and ultimately responsible for those employed on the set and their safety. The fact he also fired the weapon is just an added complication

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not really, he was the films producer and ultimately responsible for those employed on the set and their safety. The fact he also fired the weapon is just an added complication

But it doesn't seem like he deliberately set out to harm her, or anyone else on set.

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But it doesn't seem like he deliberately set out to harm her, or anyone else on set.

When ever a live round gets in to a prop, i would say there must be a deliberate action involved. People are saying things like .... he didn't deliberately do it, because of the actors name and nothing else

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

When ever a live round gets in to a prop, i would say there must be a deliberate action involved. People are saying things like .... he didn't deliberately do it, because of the actors name and nothing else

Tbf couldn't it be possible that someone else meant to do harm on set?

I mean tbf it could also be Baldwin having a vendetta against the victim, but the other option could be someone is setting him up.

If there is any malice involved.

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf couldn't it be possible that someone else meant to do harm on set?

I mean tbf it could also be Baldwin having a vendetta against the victim, but the other option could be someone is setting him up.

If there is any malice involved.

after investigation, the police have said Baldwin and the girl are responsible for the womans death, and thats why they will be charged and sent to court. They obviously think there is enough evidence to convict them or it wouldnt go to trial

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

When ever a live round gets in to a prop, i would say there must be a deliberate action involved. People are saying things like .... he didn't deliberately do it, because of the actors name and nothing else

Some movies that want to be "authentic" and rely on practical effects use live rounds to shoot objects in one scene, then swap to blanks with the same prop gun for another scene where people will be in the line of fire. So basically (assuming accident) either someone left a live round in the gun from a previous take, or someone messed up when they were loading it for that take and loaded the wrong rounds.

To reiterate again I think in a time of cheap, effective CGI there's no real reason to have live rounds anywhere near a film set - you can get close enough with post processing effects. TV shows for example will unlikely ever be using live rounds, and people just don't notice.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Some movies that want to be "authentic" and rely on practical effects use live rounds to shoot objects in one scene, then swap to blanks with the same prop gun for another scene where people will be in the line of fire. So basically (assuming accident) either someone left a live round in the gun from a previous take, or someone messed up when they were loading it for that take and loaded the wrong rounds.

To reiterate again I think in a time of cheap, effective CGI there's no real reason to have live rounds anywhere near a film set - you can get close enough with post processing effects. TV shows for example will unlikely ever be using live rounds, and people just don't notice.

You don't get the same muzzle-flash from blanks. You can mock it up with a blank flash... but it doesn't look the same. Sometimes they use live rounds for authenticity... but knowing that, you'd think it'd make it more important for everyone to check. There are so many laws surrounding guns on set, look at all the shoot-em-up films that get made without anyone being shot.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

You don't get the same muzzle-flash from blanks. You can mock it up with a blank flash... but it doesn't look the same. Sometimes they use live rounds for authenticity... but knowing that, you'd think it'd make it more important for everyone to check. There are so many laws surrounding guns on set, look at all the shoot-em-up films that get made without anyone being shot.

CGI is good enough to get the effect now, but it's obviously more expensive than just firing the gun for real. Plus some directors are probably "purists" for the art. But IMO 99% of the audience won't notice.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But it doesn't seem like he deliberately set out to harm her, or anyone else on set.

That's why he's been charged with involuntary manslaughter and not murder.