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Old 27-04-2023, 02:45 PM #1
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I’m hardly trying to argue with anyone. I just don’t see how someone keeping their trans identity hidden, has anything to do with anyone else. If they don’t feel comfortable sharing that in a certain environment, they don’t have to.

It baffles me why some people are so bothered about what genitalia someone has or how they choose to express themselves. Unless they choose to share that fact, it shouldn’t have anything to do with anybody else.

I don’t care if people don’t share my views, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. I just don’t understand the big issue with trans or people not being open about it. I’m not trans myself, but if I was, I would be too scared to come out now, and especially 5/10 years ago. When I say that all they want is rights, they just want to be accepted, and not to be alienated, or everything about them have to be something to do with their gender identity. Trans is only ‘political’ because people against trans people have made it political. All they want to do is live their lives in piece, yet they just get constantly targeted by the media, leading to more and more people targeting them online, thus leading it to being political. Just let them be.
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I’m hardly trying to argue with anyone. I just don’t see how someone keeping their trans identity hidden, has anything to do with anyone else. If they don’t feel comfortable sharing that in a certain environment, they don’t have to.

It baffles me why some people are so bothered about what genitalia someone has or how they choose to express themselves. Unless they choose to share that fact, it shouldn’t have anything to do with anybody else.

I don’t care if people don’t share my views, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. I just don’t understand the big issue with trans or people not being open about it. I’m not trans myself, but if I was, I would be too scared to come out now, and especially 5/10 years ago. When I say that all they want is rights, they just want to be accepted, and not to be alienated, or everything about them have to be something to do with their gender identity. Trans is only ‘political’ because people against trans people have made it political. All they want to do is live their lives in piece, yet they just get constantly targeted by the media, leading to more and more people targeting them online, thus leading it to being political. Just let them be.

I'll agree that the average trans person / people just want to live their lives in peace . But you can't deny there's a rise in these angry activists who wish harm on women and anyone who disagrees with their ideology??.

And it makes no sense what you're saying about Nadia,if she didn't want to tell anyone she was trans then why did she tell the BB producers and Davina before going in . Plus all the viewers knew anyway so why not tell everyone in the BB house ??? ...so it was like some bad joke that the other hm's were not aware of .

Like I said the media had a field day.
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I'll agree that the average trans person / people just want to live their lives in peace . But you can't deny there's a rise in these angry activists who wish harm on women and anyone who disagrees with their ideology??.

And it makes no sense what you're saying about Nadia,if she didn't want to tell anyone she was trans then why did she tell the BB producers and Davina before going in . Plus all the viewers knew anyway so why not tell everyone in the BB house ??? ...so it was like some bad joke that the other hm's were not aware of .

Like I said the media had a field day.
All depends which side of it you’re on tbh. All I see online, is trans people being attacked, no matter what they do, they get attacked for it. Then I’m reaction, trans people and allies defend themselves, and the media still attacks them and labels them as ‘angry’ for just defending themselves. If they weren’t attacked so much in the first place, I’m sure trans people wouldn’t talk about it so much.

I completely understand what you’re saying, but you can’t really put yourself in her shoes because (presumably) you’re not trans. Not gonna lie, I never watched that series, so I can’t talk about what went on. But from what you’ve said, it does sound very exploitive from the producers, which is disgusting imo.

I’m not trans, but as a gay man, I feel like I can understand (some) of the struggles trans people face, with issues coming out / being accepted. If I was on that series, I probably would tell the casting team that I was gay, but I doubt I would have felt comfortable with announcing that to the house, even though everyone could probably tell I am, you never know what reactions you will get or if people are going to alienate you for it. It’s the same situation. If she doesn’t want to disclose that, she doesn’t really have to.
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