[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yep
And irreversible! , Despite the lies that they keep saying about medication being 'reversible" . If someone starts taking testosterone or oestrogen or has anything else done ,the effects will change their bodies and get into their bloodstream.

There's no going back. Every detransioner's story I've heard... usually they're permanently stuck with the changes and seem very unhappy, and have suffered with medical problems .

As regards this topic a very knowledgeable friend of ours said that many of ‘bodily changes’ are indeed reversible BUT alarmingly nothing brain related is reversible !!

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Originally Posted by Zizu

As regards this topic a very knowledgeable friend of ours said that many of ‘bodily changes’ are indeed reversible BUT alarmingly nothing brain related is reversible !!

Frightening


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From what I've read and seen, the effects of testosterone are far less reversible than estrogen or are you referring to puberty blockers?

[user104658]

Full medical transition means permanent involvement of medical services in your life. Maybe this will change as medical technology progresses - who knows - but currently, that is the situation. I don't think that is really made clear enough at all to those seeking to transition. I'm sure for the mostpart it is at the point of ACTIVELY being with those services, but by that point people are often so far down that route that they socially and psychologically have little option but to continue. It needs to be makde clear and honest to all from the outset; people end up with severe medical injury from transition surgeries with poor outcomes, and even the ones with good outcomes have permanent medical consequences. Even worse if maintenance exercises are not done regularly -- and in a community with high rates of poor mental health and depression, the risk of letting that slide is HIGH.

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seems the hateful transmob are looking for war. Hyde Park at weekend

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Originally Posted by Zizu

As regards this topic a very knowledgeable friend of ours said that many of ‘bodily changes’ are indeed reversible BUT alarmingly nothing brain related is reversible !!

Frightening


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I don't trust anyone who claims it's ' reversible ' , even some so called medical professionals are making questionable statements. I'm no expert...but once someone takes testosterone,I can't see how that could be reversed?. I've seen grown adult detransioners who have permanently had their voices altered due to the medication ,and they've suffered hair loss . There's nothing they can do about it . And that's grown adults. So can you imagine the damages to under 18's and minors !.

The brain is probably one of the most important organs in our body ,once that's screwed up ... that's it . Of course they won't tell people. But if you do research , you'll see that brain swelling is a risk aswell as other problems. I heard that one of the drugs they use on transgender patients.... has a ton of dangerous side effects.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't trust anyone who claims it's ' reversible ' , even some so called medical professionals are making questionable statements. I'm no expert...but once someone takes testosterone,I can't see how that could be reversed?. I've seen grown adult detransioners who have permanently had their voices altered due to the medication ,and they've suffered hair loss . There's nothing they can do about it . And that's grown adults. So can you imagine the damages to under 18's and minors !.

The brain is probably one of the most important organs in our body ,once that's screwed up ... that's it . Of course they won't tell people. But if you do research , you'll see that brain swelling is a risk aswell as other problems. I heard that one of the drugs they use on transgender patients.... has a ton of dangerous side effects.

The physical effects of HRT testosterone on female bodies are not reversible... there's a reason that (to be blunt) trans men on HRT "pass" far more easily than most trans women. Removing testosterone/adding female HRT doesn't reverse those effects.

Trans women who have been on HRT can have a lot of it reversed by stopping it/adding testosterone instead and can hormonally detransition. You can remove implants etc. Obviously, any body part removed surgically is permanent.

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The physical effects of HRT testosterone on female bodies are not reversible... there's a reason that (to be blunt) trans men on HRT "pass" far more easily than most trans women. Removing testosterone/adding female HRT doesn't reverse those effects.

Trans women who have been on HRT can have a lot of it reversed by stopping it/adding testosterone instead and can hormonally detransition. You can remove implants etc. Obviously, any body part removed surgically is permanent.

Yeah it's definitely more difficult to reverse FTM effects regarding testosterone . But I've seen MTF ...who have detransioned or tried to ,and they're still suffering from medical injuries/ complications and problems. Not to mention their mental health aswell.

So both have their risks . And people should be honest , Instead of dressing it up as some quick solution fairytale.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

As regards this topic a very knowledgeable friend of ours said that MANY of the ‘bodily changes’ are indeed reversible BUT alarmingly nothing brain related is reversible !!

Frightening


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The key word in my response was MANY


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