[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

A spokesman for the Civil Guard said today: 'After 29 constant days of searching the
lifeless body of the young man has been found in the Masca area.

Cause of death will be interesting if it is him. Murdered or died of the elements

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Cause of death will be interesting if it is him. Murdered or died of the elements

"Initial inquiries are pointing to him having suffered an accident/fall in the area where he was found.”

^what they are saying at this point

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

"Initial inquiries are pointing to him having suffered an accident/fall in the area where he was found.”

^what they are saying at this point

Thanks Annie, still doesn't make sense at all why he chose to go off road and try to walk home though, unless he was trying to run from someone or he was off his tits on something and thought it was a good idea

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thanks Annie, still doesn't make sense at all why he chose to go off road and try to walk home though, unless he was trying to run from someone or he was off his tits on something and thought it was a good idea

sad news for the family but at least they will have closure now

If he was pushed it will be very hard to establish murder as a cause as he could just as easily have fallen, I mean maybe he did decide to walk but something about it feels very off .

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Cherie

sad news for the family but at least they will have closure now

If he was pushed it will be very hard to establish murder as a cause as he could just as easily have fallen, I mean maybe he did decide to walk but something about it feels very off .

Yeah, i still think his friends no more about what went on

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, i still think his friends no more about what went on

and the two men in the Air B n B

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Cherie

and the two men in the Air B n B

Definitely

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Cause of death will be interesting if it is him. Murdered or died of the elements

Not necessarily to be honest, yes it'll show if he was shot/stabbed/beaten to death but unfortunately a "death by accidental fall" (despite what CSI-type shows would have us believe) is relatively easy to fake as a method of killing someone, especially in a rural area with time/no witnesses.

It doesn't really matter that much either way to be honest, it's a "death by misadventure" whether he just stupidly wandered off and fell, or got himself involved in something else... the outcome is the same and the cause ultimately is similar and all-too-common for young people especially young boys as a cause of untimely death. Didn't realise what danger he was putting himself in, made some tragic mistakes.

As before I do still feel for his parents - regardless of what happened and regardless of what he'd done in the past, that's still someone's kid, and not even like "adult offspring", 20 is still basically a child, especially in the mind of a parent.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Not necessarily to be honest, yes it'll show if he was shot/stabbed/beaten to death but unfortunately a "death by accidental fall" (despite what CSI-type shows would have us believe) is relatively easy to fake as a method of killing someone, especially in a rural area with time/no witnesses.

It doesn't really matter that much either way to be honest, it's a "death by misadventure" whether he just stupidly wandered off and fell, or got himself involved in something else... the outcome is the same and the cause ultimately is similar and all-too-common for young people especially young boys as a cause of untimely death. Didn't realise what danger he was putting himself in, made some tragic mistakes.

As before I do still feel for his parents - regardless of what happened and regardless of what he'd done in the past, that's still someone's kid, and not even like "adult offspring", 20 is still basically a child, especially in the mind of a parent.

…(…unless there is clear evidence of wrongdoing and his life being taken by another(others)….wouldn't it be natural causes for a fall, as with Michael Mosley….

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Not necessarily to be honest, yes it'll show if he was shot/stabbed/beaten to death but unfortunately a "death by accidental fall" (despite what CSI-type shows would have us believe) is relatively easy to fake as a method of killing someone, especially in a rural area with time/no witnesses.

It doesn't really matter that much either way to be honest, it's a "death by misadventure" whether he just stupidly wandered off and fell, or got himself involved in something else... the outcome is the same and the cause ultimately is similar and all-too-common for young people especially young boys as a cause of untimely death. Didn't realise what danger he was putting himself in, made some tragic mistakes.

I wouldn't say it doesn't matter, yes he's still dead but if someone was responsible it should be looked into regardless but yes if he was pushed off a cliff or something that's probably impossible to prove

As before I do still feel for his parents - regardless of what happened and regardless of what he'd done in the past, that's still someone's kid, and not even like "adult offspring", 20 is still basically a child, especially in the mind of a parent[/B].

Yes true enough. My own son is 20 now so I agree 20 is still a child to me. Although that machete business.. not the average "boys will be boys" stuff I have to say...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes true enough. My own son is 20 now so I agree 20 is still a child to me. Although that machete business.. not the average "boys will be boys" stuff I have to say...

No it's obviously horrendous, and tbf I understand why it lessens the sympathy that the general public feel for the guy himself, but I doubt it lessens the pain felt by parents (might make it even worse if they're left thinking they did a poor job/their parenting resulted in some of his life choices - which of course, may in part be the case).

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

No it's obviously horrendous, and tbf I understand why it lessens the sympathy that the general public feel for the guy himself, but I doubt it lessens the pain felt by parents (might make it even worse if they're left thinking they did a poor job/their parenting resulted in some of his life choices - which of course, may in part be the case).

True