[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i personally am not thinking that at all


i mean the MJ fans were the same when he died, same goes for the Elvis Presley fans the day he died

or the Whitney Houston fans when she died

and so on

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I always remember rooting against them.

Obviously that's really daft looking back on it.

I didn't think they sounded great on. X Factor, but then their recording content was very good. Not really my music though

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He definitely envied the others. He release flop after flop. He went to see Niall in concert and was doing a weird unauthorised meet and greet with his fans outside the venue. Security had to tell him to stop. Compare that to Harry Styles who also went to support Niall but chose to do so in a private room as to not try to steal his thunder so to speak.

Interesting take. With fake you can be at the top then you can be dropped like a hot potato

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Fans are now hounding his exes social media.

And here lies the problem. People make me sick

Originally Posted by Alf

The fact he seems calm and with his family here tells me that he doesn't seem suicidal. And the fact he's in Argentina tells me, he's trying to escape people.

This is really nieve. He looked calm so he's fine right?

Originally Posted by Alf

He was probably gonna speak out, maybe about Diddy or others, so they killed him.

You've witnessed them try to kill Trump, so don't be shocked at that claim.

Oh FFS!!!!!! Really. Just bloody ridiculous

Originally Posted by Kate!

Cheers people for spoiling the thread.

Sigh.

I agree

Originally Posted by Kate!

Thank you Ammi and Nicky. Really lovely posts. I'm gonna have a quiet day at home today, I'm too upset to go out and do things. Some people might think I'm silly but it's hit me hard.

Bless you. Tbh, it has played on my mind a lot since I heard. I'm not invested in Liam or the band. Don't listen to their music, but they were part of my childhood just watching them on. X Factor. I just feel so sad for him that he felt he had no other way out. The thought of him jumping is just beyond horrible.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

I didn't think they sounded great on. X Factor, but then their recording content was very good. Not really my music though



Interesting take. With fake you can be at the top then you can be dropped like a hot potato



And here lies the problem. People make me sick





Oh FFS!!!!!! Really. Just bloody ridiculous



I agree



Bless you. Tbh, it has played on my mind a lot since I heard. I'm not invested in Liam or the band. Don't listen to their music, but they were part of my childhood just watching them on. X Factor. I just feel so sad for him that he felt he had no other way out. The thought of him jumping is just beyond horrible.

Oh thank you Thomas. Bless you too.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Wow....he sounds quite troubled recently. A terrible shock to hear.
Thoughts with his son and family

That's what I thought. Such a shame he didn't get the help he needed. I think men find it harder to talk about their problems.
So they usually keep everything inside.

[arista]

Police say his Girlfriend
left Argentina 2 days before this.

[Beso]

Sounds like a spur of the moment decision, probably made because if rage and drugs, wish I could say he will live to regret it, but unfortunately I cant.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

Police say his Girlfriend
left Argentina 2 days before this.

I think that was his ex-girlfriend as she snapchatted with his current gf yesterday?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

I think that was his ex-girlfriend as she snapchatted with his current gf yesterday?

OK

[arista]

3RD Reprint

[Crimson Dynamo]

That snapchat

Sitting at a huge table, miles from his gf. saying its a beautiful day outside (clearly grey and cloudy) sad face then smile, sad face then smile - having breakfast at 1pm (what did he do all day?)

Seems like drugs and drink became what he did in place of an actual job?

He posted an hour before his death " 'happy to have some time away' - away from what I wonder as he hasn't really done anything since that band split. I guess too many sycophants around him trying to get at his fame and money..

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

That snapchat

Sitting at a huge table, miles from his gf. saying its a beautiful day outside (clearly grey and cloudy) sad face then smile, sad face then smile - having breakfast at 1pm (what did he do all day?)

Seems like drugs and drink became what he did in place of an actual job?

He posted an hour before his death " 'happy to have some time away' - away from what I wonder as he hasn't really done anything since that band split. I guess too many sycophants around him trying to get at his fame and money..

He was a very rich man. Mostly from his One Direction days.
He doesn't look happy at all there sadly.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

That snapchat

Sitting at a huge table, miles from his gf. saying its a beautiful day outside (clearly grey and cloudy) sad face then smile, sad face then smile - having breakfast at 1pm (what did he do all day?)

Seems like drugs and drink became what he did in place of an actual job?

He posted an hour before his death " 'happy to have some time away' - away from what I wonder as he hasn't really done anything since that band split. I guess too many sycophants around him trying to get at his fame and money..

I watched the video. A very unhappy soul.

I don't think he was happy at all imo.

[Jessica.]

So shocking, I wasn't really a fan of 1D but I always rooted for their success and I liked hearing about updates on the band members lives. Liam was younger than me, a very sad loss.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

I watched the video. A very unhappy soul.

I don't think he was happy at all imo.

no that would be my take as well

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ce-update.html

[Kate!]

In the last hour, we've received audio of the emergency call placed last night by the hotel where Liam Payne was staying.

The exchange between the hotel desk manager and the 911 operator reveals the frantic exchanges in the moments before the star's death.

A full transcript of a translation of the call is below:

911 operator: "What is happening sir?"

Hotel manager: "We have a guest drunk with drugs and alcohol. When he [them, gender not clear in conversation] is conscious, he is breaking everything in the room."

911 operator: "You said alcohol and drugs..."

Hotel manager: "This is correct."

911 operator: "You said Costa Rica intersecting where?"

Hotel manager: "Costa Rica 6032."

911 operator: "Repeat."

Hotel manager: "Costa Rica 6032."

911 operator: "What is the hotel called?"

Hotel manager: "Caza Azul Palermo. We need to send someone with urgency because I don't know if the guest's life is in danger because he is in a room with balcony, and we are afraid he could do something that threatens life."

911 operator: "How long has he been there? Is it a long stay hotel?"

Hotel manager: "(The guest) has been for the past three days."

911 operator: "You don't any other information because you can't get in. Right?"

Hotel manager: "No."

911 operator: "We are also notifying SAME (Medical Emergency Attention Service)."

Hotel manager: "We are asking to send someone with urgency because..."

911 operator: "We are doing that. Any other data to give me. Who are you?"

Hotel manager: "I'm the desk manager."

911 operator: "Person in charge of the place."

Hotel manager - "Yes."

911 operator: "It has been notified. What is your name, sir?"

Hotel manager: "Esteban."

911 operator: "Thanks for calling. Be online."

Hotel manager: "Are you sending police too."

911 operator: "Police from the delegation... Let me confirm."

Hotel manager: "No, no, only SAME, only SAME (Medical Emergency Attention Service)."

911 operator: "Don't worry because they have already been notified."

Hotel manager: "Because as you said he is under the influence of alcohol and drugs, SAME personnel can't enter alone."

911 operator: "You can ask that to the police, but if SAME needs them, they will notify you."

Hotel manager: "Good, OK, perfect."

911 operator: "Have a good day."

Hotel manager: "Thanks, you too."

[smudgie]

Poor lad.
Depression, drugs and alcoholic don’t sit well together.
So young to die. R.I.P.

[Strictly Jake]

Youtube video

This death has hit me pretty hard I won't lie. Think it's because I will always be such a massive x factor fan so I've followed his career for a long time. And he's a similar age to me. Its really tragic

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

The fact he seems calm and with his family here tells me that he doesn't seem suicidal. And the fact he's in Argentina tells me, he's trying to escape people.

I strongly disagree Alf he's presenting in this video as quite troubled, "currently seeming calm" means nothing (although I wouldn't even say that's accurate, he seems tense). A lot of his recent videos have this energy.

Also they've just woken up and - by all accounts - Liam was suffering g with quite severe alcohol and (various) drug issues so at the time of the incident will have been in a very different state of mind.

I think it will either turn out to be an accident due to being erratic and extremely intoxicated, or an "unplanned" impulsive suicide (again while heavily intoxicated).

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Youtube video

This death has hit me pretty hard I won't lie. Think it's because I will always be such a massive x factor fan so I've followed his career for a long time. And he's a similar age to me. Its really tragic

Aww Jake bless you. Love this. It's so beautiful and sad

[user104658]

He's also openly talked about previous episodes of suicidal ideation and has had recent negative stories come out about him/negative social media attention, so I think it's fairly likely.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kate!

In the last hour, we've received audio of the emergency call placed last night by the hotel where Liam Payne was staying.

The exchange between the hotel desk manager and the 911 operator reveals the frantic exchanges in the moments before the star's death.

A full transcript of a translation of the call is below:

911 operator: "What is happening sir?"

Hotel manager: "We have a guest drunk with drugs and alcohol. When he [them, gender not clear in conversation] is conscious, he is breaking everything in the room."

911 operator: "You said alcohol and drugs..."

Hotel manager: "This is correct."

911 operator: "You said Costa Rica intersecting where?"

Hotel manager: "Costa Rica 6032."

911 operator: "Repeat."

Hotel manager: "Costa Rica 6032."

911 operator: "What is the hotel called?"

Hotel manager: "Caza Azul Palermo. We need to send someone with urgency because I don't know if the guest's life is in danger because he is in a room with balcony, and we are afraid he could do something that threatens life."

911 operator: "How long has he been there? Is it a long stay hotel?"

Hotel manager: "(The guest) has been for the past three days."

911 operator: "You don't any other information because you can't get in. Right?"

Hotel manager: "No."

911 operator: "We are also notifying SAME (Medical Emergency Attention Service)."

Hotel manager: "We are asking to send someone with urgency because..."

911 operator: "We are doing that. Any other data to give me. Who are you?"

Hotel manager: "I'm the desk manager."

911 operator: "Person in charge of the place."

Hotel manager - "Yes."

911 operator: "It has been notified. What is your name, sir?"

Hotel manager: "Esteban."

911 operator: "Thanks for calling. Be online."

Hotel manager: "Are you sending police too."

911 operator: "Police from the delegation... Let me confirm."

Hotel manager: "No, no, only SAME, only SAME (Medical Emergency Attention Service)."

911 operator: "Don't worry because they have already been notified."

Hotel manager: "Because as you said he is under the influence of alcohol and drugs, SAME personnel can't enter alone."

911 operator: "You can ask that to the police, but if SAME needs them, they will notify you."

Hotel manager: "Good, OK, perfect."

911 operator: "Have a good day."

Hotel manager: "Thanks, you too."

Where was that? They speak good English

[Vanessa]

Exactly. He seems somewhat tense to me. Doesn't look happy at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What evidence is there that he was an alcoholic

Is there any or is that totally anecdotal?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

What evidence is there that he was an alcoholic

Is there any or is that totally anecdotal?

He said himself. Was recently on rehab, but must have relapsed.