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Originally Posted by BBXX

Neither of those were voted into power by the public, of course.

Why does that matter? We are discussing who holds the visible power in the UK.

Originally Posted by BBXX

but I do think white people benefit from wider systemic privileges than most, particularly immigrants for example.

Again, examples? Kemmy Badenoch is an immigrant.

Originally Posted by BBXX

While from a law and rights perspective everyone is equal (quite rightly so) do you really believe everyone in society is seen as equal?

Yes, if they are wealthy, as I stated above.

Wealth and all it enables and brings is the determiner, nothing else.

Originally Posted by BBXX

Why have you chosen UK media as your example of where gay men have more power than straight men

Because the media and arts are key to controlling societal power and have massive influence.

Originally Posted by BBXX

While I am not suggesting blatant homophobia is rife in the UK (though there were over 22k cases of LGBT hate crime in 2023/4) I do think it's pretty naive to suggest that someone's sexuality isn't a barrier and people don't make judgements and decisions subliminally.

Who committed those 'hate crimes' and what were they? Also, I wonder how many would have been recorded against straight white men if that was even allowed. The prejudiced and bigoted **** I hear the LGBT community say about straight white people is beyond wild.

The fact that openly hating on one group is a crime and openly hating on another isn't should clarify things a little for you in itself as to holds the real privilege in the UK in 2024. You can make disparaging comments on my immutable characteristics all day long, but if I wanted (I don't) to do the same to you I would be prosecuted.

Originally Posted by BBXX

The house is a tiny microcosm of society, of course.

No it isn't, many established rules of society are suspended and reorganised in that house. You still haven't shown me where the 3 lads have any more power than Ali and her gang in that house.

Look, can I ask going forward that we stick to the house in this discussion? I wasn't originally talking about wider society, I was only specifically talking about the house and Ali's place in it. I have heard your views and answered them and I think we have heard and understood each other enough to move on.