[BBXX]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Why does that matter? We are discussing who holds the visible power in the UK.

Again, examples? Kemmy Badenoch is an immigrant.

I am speaking generally, there will always be exceptions to the rule. I guess sexism doesn't exist either because Margaret Thatcher was once in charge.

Immigrants and nationals of POC probably felt super powerful and influential earlier this year during the literal riots and random attacks on members of the public who weren't white.

Because the media and arts are key to controlling societal power and have massive influence.

I wouldn't say arts are key to controlling societal power in the slightest and while they have a higher concentration of LGBT people I don't think that means it's "ruled" by particularly but I digress.

Who committed those 'hate crimes' and what were they?

Is that a serious question?

Also, I wonder how many would have been recorded against straight white men if that was even allowed. The prejudiced and bigoted **** I hear the LGBT community say about straight white people is beyond wild.

So you've heard **** said against white straight people it's prejudiced and bigoted, but when you hear from a gay man that sexuality can often be an issue and a barrier it's "victimhood" and "pretending".

If you're willing to accept that white straight people can be victim to prejudicial behaviour, then it stands to reason the same can apply to LGBT+ people and POC and if you don't think that prejudice manifests in decision making that negatively impacts someones success and acts as a barrier, then I am not sure what to say.

And it's with that comment I will end my participation in this conversation.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I am speaking generally, there will always be exceptions to the rule. I guess sexism doesn't exist either because Margaret Thatcher was once in charge.

Sex or gender doesn't matter in the UK and is not a barrier to advancement.

A wealthy well educated well connected woman with a good accent is capable of everything an equivelent man is.

Originally Posted by BBXX

Immigrants and nationals of POC probably felt super powerful and influential earlier this year during the literal riots and random attacks on members of the public who weren't white.

No one on either side of those riots had any real power, nor did those that rioted in Harehills, and what went on is a deep and nuanced conversation where both sides did really **** things. Neither of those riots have anything to do with the point I am making though.

Wealthy people, including wealthy immigrants, don't riot. Wealth, or lack of it, is the continuing key element.

Look, I am sorry that you couldn't just agree to keep it to the house and the HMs and answer the very clear question that I asked. But, ok.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Look, I am sorry that you couldn't just agree to keep it to the house and the HMs and answer the very clear question that I asked. But, ok.

I didn't actually see you asking me to stick to the house in your reply before this one, so sorry for that. (Maybe you added it while I was replying, as I am sure I didn't see it originally?)

But also, I just shared my feelings generally, I wasn't talking to you specifically so if you didn't like me using real world scenarios to give context to what I thought Ali meant you should have just not replied.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I just shared my feelings generally, I wasn't talking to you specifically so if you didn't like me using real world scenarios to give context to what I thought Ali meant you should have just not replied.

Your real world examples had nothing to do with Ali's actions and def didn't give them 'context', as I explained. It seems to me more that you couldn't answer the very clear question about the house and Ali within it and just waffled on about other stuff in order to shift the conversation.

But, ok dude, whatever

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Ali reminds me of Chanel from last year , both of them like to repeat the same rubbish over and over again. They also keep going around the bush before they make a point,and even then it's still not coherent nor factual.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Ali reminds me of Chanel from last year , both of them like to repeat the same rubbish over and over again. They also keep going around the bush before they make a point,and even then it's still not coherent nor factual.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Ali reminds me of Chanel from last year , both of them like to repeat the same rubbish over and over again. They also keep going around the bush before they make a point,and even then it's still not coherent nor factual.

Are you confusing Ali with Lily ??


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