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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

So you just said it yourself. Is it ok for a black person to say such a thing but not a white person? There are certain contradictions sometimes over intention. I saw no malice in what Emily said but you've just opened up the boundaries of what is acceptable as defined by the modern world.

You can say it's contradictions all you like,but that's life. There's women who will call eachother " bitch " as a joke,but the moment a man calls them it then it's seen as sexist , there's gay people who use non PC words to describe themselves and so on .

I didn't say it all made sense,or that I even agreed with the double standards...but I guess their argument would be they've been called all the names under the sun so they're taking a particular word,which had negative
connotations...and they're re claiming it .

This is why it gets into a messy arguments , as some people have the mindset of " either all offensive/ swear words are allowed or they're all not allowed ", but it's not
as simple as that.

Obviously context is important as well. Look at the whole situation with Ali , she did a full discussion with her housemates on how certain words are offensive unless the person themselves identify that way . Today is
honestly such a tip toe world, and people are very overly sensitive.


I think Emily possibly would have got just a warning if it was pre BB8 . Emily herself sounded like she couldn't believe what she said , she even repeated it in shock.


I just think it's common sense, why would you say something on national TV that would likely cause offence, especially around race. I honestly think Emily's
comment is worse than Sarah's,as Sarah's was a word
play on a political slogan, she was making a joke...that she knew Nathan would find funny.


BB saw how Hanah ,Segun & Khaled took it personally, therefore he stepped in.

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Sarah didn't mean it that way at all. It was probably a bad choice of words, nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Sarah didn't mean it that way at all. It was probably a bad choice of words, nothing more.

Definitely.

She used it in the context of protecting their 'border' Vs the vampires, and she used it to a group that was half white.

The vampire group were literally gloating at the start.

But, as it's always worth saying, controlling a nation's border against illegal immigration is not racist.

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You can say it's contradictions all you like,but that's life. There's women who will call eachother " bitch " as a joke,but the moment a man calls them it then it's seen as sexist , there's gay people who use non PC words to describe themselves and so on .

I didn't say it all made sense,or that I even agreed with the double standards...but I guess their argument would be they've been called all the names under the sun so they're taking a particular word,which had negative
connotations...and they're re claiming it .

This is why it gets into a messy arguments , as some people have the mindset of " either all offensive/ swear words are allowed or they're all not allowed ", but it's not
as simple as that.

Obviously context is important as well. Look at the whole situation with Ali , she did a full discussion with her housemates on how certain words are offensive unless the person themselves identify that way . Today is
honestly such a tip toe world, and people are very overly sensitive.


I think Emily possibly would have got just a warning if it was pre BB8 . Emily herself sounded like she couldn't believe what she said , she even repeated it in shock.


I just think it's common sense, why would you say something on national TV that would likely cause offence, especially around race. I honestly think Emily's
comment is worse than Sarah's,as Sarah's was a word
play on a political slogan, she was making a joke...that she knew Nathan would find funny.


BB saw how Hanah ,Segun & Khaled took it personally, therefore he stepped in.

I wasn't saying you had contradictions. I was just saying you brought up the whole thing about colour and creed which is a fundamental part of this issue. Although I did to be fair.

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I wasn't saying you had contradictions. I was just saying you brought up the whole thing about colour which is a fundamental part of this issue.

I mean Charley herself did a public talk after BB saying she doesn't think anyone should use the N word regardless of your colour, and tbh that was always my thinking aswell on the matter. But at the same time we can't police language.

But there's is still ignorance out there ,I've actually been in a situation where someone didn't know what the word meant....and I had to explain it .