[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

Usually it's the anime folk here who are less homophobic. And yeah, they're getting up there in years. 30yrs is generous, in some cases.

Older generation Anime fans are cool tbf.

As are women Anime fans and most Battle Shounen fans.

It's the Anime Elitist and Incel sides of the community that are my issue currently with Anime fans, and the latter side of it do fall under saying a lot of Homophobic stuff on MAL.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Older generation Anime fans are cool tbf.

As are women Anime fans and most Battle Shounen fans.

It's the Anime Elitist and Incel sides of the community that are my issue currently with Anime fans, and the latter side of it do fall under saying a lot of Homophobic stuff on MAL.

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I still think that's one of the most LGBT-friendly parts of the "community" (*gag*), but I'm not that deeply involved in any of it . The anime-loving demographic does have a pedophilia problem though for the obvious... I'm going to a convention soon though, so I'll be on the lookout for suspiciously painted benches, vandals and other signs of overtly rampant homophobia... it'll certainly give me something extra to do.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

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I still think that's one of the most LGBT-friendly parts of the "community" (*gag*), but I'm not that deeply involved in any of it . The anime-loving demographic does have a pedophilia problem though for the obvious... I'm going to a convention soon though, so I'll be on the lookout for suspiciously painted benches, vandals and other signs of overtly rampant homophobia... it'll certainly give me something extra to do.

Good luck when you go, hopefully you'll have a great time.

I do agree with you on the Paedophilia problem within Anime, it makes it incredibly hard for me to find good Anime because of it nowadays.

I do still love Anime as a medium, it's why I get so annoyed when I see the current state that it's in.

I have been reading the Manga to Bleach recently (Admittedly at a very slow pace lol,) but I'm enjoying that a fair bit at the minute.

[Glenn.]

The chair of an LGTBQ+ group has praised a community's "heartwarming" response after its Pride-themed bench was set on fire in a suspected arson attack.

The colourful bench on Windmill Hill in Hitchin was set on fire between Monday evening and Tuesday morning.

The local Pride group, North Herts Pride, set up a fundraising page for the bench to be repaired and reached its fundraising target within just two hours.

Kit Rees, chair of the group, told ITV News Anglia that the community response had been "fantastic".

"It has turned more into a thing that's brought us closer together and has proved to be a somewhat more positive thing than the initial destruction," they said.

"I think that if I was to say anything to the people that did it, then I would probably say thanks because you've just made us all stronger. And also, get a grip.

"Our community is fantastic, we've had so much support so swiftly.

"There is absolutely nothing this community will not do to support each other and this act has proved that.

"What we suppose is an act of hate has just brought to the surface so much love."

Police have launched an investigation and are appealing for any witnesses to get in touch.

[Glenn.]

These homophobes really don’t like benches huh? So fragile of them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looks like it may have been struck by lightning!

[Cherie]

Vandalising park equipment is a national sport whatever it represents


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qg5lx3le0o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4njngwek11o

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think the problem is under 18 kids more than anything else

probably high on street drugs like cannabis

[Glenn.]

Nothing says “national sport” like targeted arson rooted in bigotry. The mental gymnastics you’re doing to avoid calling it what it is—homophobia—is almost impressive. Almost.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

These homophobes really don’t like benches huh? So fragile of them.

Maybe they think “sitting on wood” will make them gay.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Maybe they think “sitting on wood” will make them gay.

Who knows? They’re so thick.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its funny that you are trying to imply that ONLY benches dedicated to your community are targetted when that is not the case at all, any bench is up for grabs whatever it represents, you can deny it all you like but the evidence is everywhere

No one’s claiming only Pride benches ever get vandalised. The point is this one was deliberately torched because it represented the LGBTQ+ community.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by BBXX

What's funny?

Originally Posted by Livia

Over the last ten years Jewish graves have been desecrated, headstones smashed or daubed with swastikas. Jewish graves in the UK, London, Manchester, Kent, Belfast.... I mean... When this was mentioned before I remember being told by one of TiBB's gay community that it was probably just high spirits.

What's funny is the "breaking windows in a synagogue" line used to reinforce your point, when anti-Semitic acts have been excused time and again on here particularly (but not solely) by some members of TiBB's gay community. Now you're using it to reinforce your point. I am criticised for calling out anti-Semitism by people who aren't clear in their head what it is - racism - then accused of being a racist myself when I criticise Islam and its misogynistic, homophobic, murderous doctrines. Honestly, this place.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

What's funny is the "breaking windows in a synagogue" line used to reinforce your point, when anti-Semitic acts have been excused time and again on here particularly (but not solely) by some members of TiBB's gay community. Now you're using it to reinforce your point. I am criticised for calling out anti-Semitism by people who aren't clear in their head what it is - racism - then accused of being a racist myself when I criticise Islam and its misogynistic, homophobic, murderous doctrines. Honestly, this place.

Oh dear, Livia. You understand I was speaking as a general sense, within wider society, and not within the confines of just TiBB and one of its gay members, right?

A few bad opinions of some forum members who happen to be gay doesn't determine the opinions of entire demographics of people, just like a few extremists throwing gays of buildings in the Middle East doesn't determine the actions of entire demographic of people.

You continue to paint entire demographics with broad brush strokes based on limited experience with a handful and honestly, it makes your opinions look extremely narrow-minded.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Oh dear, Livia. You understand I was speaking as a general sense, within wider society, and not within the confines of just TiBB and one of its gay members, right?

A few bad opinions of some forum members who happen to be gay doesn't determine the opinions of entire demographics of people, just like a few extremists throwing gays of buildings in the Middle East doesn't determine the actions of entire demographic of people.

You continue to paint entire demographics with broad brush strokes based on limited experience with a handful and honestly, it makes your opinions look extremely narrow-minded.

Oh dear BBXX, you picked the Jewish community to demonstrate your point despite the fact that Jews are castigated on this forum and the people who say the worst things get away with it. I've had my heritage, even my family ridiculed quite recently, the posts are probably still there because it's acceptable, it seems. Israel, you see. But hey, if it helps you make your point that the gay community face bigotry, you dig into it.

Oh, it's just a few extremists who kill gays in the Middle East, is it. Islam isn't anti-gay at all, right? Actually, they feel the same about Jews and gays, I am aware how they feel about my people, I'm surprised you don't know more about it yourself.

I'll close by saying honestly, all this for a bench. Broken gravestones with swastikas? High spirits. A vandalised bench? Homophobia.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh dear BBXX, you picked the Jewish community to demonstrate your point despite the fact that Jews are castigated on this forum and the people who say the worst things get away with it. I've had my heritage, even my family ridiculed quite recently, the posts are probably still there because it's acceptable, it seems. Israel, you see. But hey, if it helps you make your point that the gay community face bigotry, you dig into it.

I'm talking specifically about society in general, not this forum. I understand the world is a scary place for Jewish people currently, but my point remains - if there is an incident on something that symbolises a particular demographic, it's usually seen (by and large by society) as an attack on that demographic, rather than random. Whether it be a synagogue, a pride symbol, a church, whatever it may be.

Oh, it's just a few extremists who kill gays in the Middle East, is it. Islam isn't anti-gay at all, right? Actually, they feel the same about Jews and gays, I am aware how they feel about my people, I'm surprised you don't know more about it yourself.

I am aware Islam's attitudes towards homosexuality and have condemned it multiple times. People being throw off buildings is not a regular occurrence, it's an extreme one, and that doesn't make it okay but I'm saying that just because someone who follows Islam might condemn homosexuals it doesn't mean they would kill them. The same with any faith, and we shouldn't act like they would until they do. In the same way that some who follow Islam have enacted terror attacks, the vast majority have not and so they shouldn't all be views as potential terrorists.

I'll close by saying honestly, all this for a bench. Broken gravestones with swastikas? High spirits. A vandalised bench? Homophobia.

Not sure what this has to do with me, I've never endorsed that opinion.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I'm talking specifically about society in general, not this forum. I understand the world is a scary place for Jewish people currently, but my point remains - if there is an incident on something that symbolises a particular demographic, it's usually seen (by and large by society) as an attack on that demographic, rather than random. Whether it be a synagogue, a pride symbol, a church, whatever it may be.



I am aware Islam's attitudes towards homosexuality and have condemned it multiple times. People being throw off buildings is not a regular occurrence, it's an extreme one, and that doesn't make it okay but I'm saying that just because someone who follows Islam might condemn homosexuals it doesn't mean they would kill them. The same with any faith, and we shouldn't act like they would until they do. In the same way that some who follow Islam have enacted terror attacks, the vast majority have not and so they shouldn't all be views as potential terrorists.



Not sure what this has to do with me, I've never endorsed that opinion.

Gays being thrown off roofs is not an every day occurrence for gay people in Islam. Usually it's arrests, beatings, imprisonments, hanging, isolation from their families, no constitutional or employment protection... but hey, at least they don't get their benches painted. Go Islam...

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

Gays being thrown off roofs is not an every day occurrence for gay people in Islam. Usually it's arrests, beatings, imprisonments, hanging, isolation from their families, no constitutional or employment protection... but hey, at least they don't get their benches painted. Go Islam...

You keep insinuating I support Islam. Please stop, I've condemned it over and over again.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by BBXX

You keep insinuating I support Islam. Please stop, I've condemned it over and over again.

No one thinks you support Islam. But you do make excuses for it and attempt to minimise their atrocities.

Done with this thread now.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one thinks you support Islam. But you do make excuses for it and attempt to minimise their atrocities.

Done with this thread now.

I appreciate you're done, and so am I, but I do want to just clarify my stance on this. I don't excuse Islam, but I do give those who follow it the benefit of the doubt until they give me a reason to do otherwise, the same as I do for all religions.

I am signalling the difference between the religion and the religious.

[rusticgal]

Keeping it simple...a bench painted as a Rainbow in a park for strangers to sit and talk just about sums up this country at the moment. We teach our children not to speak to strangers and despite all good intentions of the Bench there are plenty of groups for lonely people to go to instead of speaking to some random stranger in a Park....bizarre.

[Niamh.]

Deleted some posts in here, I will be banning people from the thread if you carry on insulting each other

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Keeping it simple...a bench painted as a Rainbow in a park for strangers to sit and talk just about sums up this country at the moment. We teach our children not to speak to strangers and despite all good intentions of the Bench there are plenty of groups for lonely people to go to instead of speaking to some random stranger in a Park....bizarre.

I think the whole point of the bench is that sometimes a small gesture, like a colourful seat inviting conversation, can mean a lot to someone who’s struggling. It’s not about forcing people to talk to strangers, it’s about reminding people they’re not alone.

Calling that bizarres says more about how cynical things have become than it does about the bench itself.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Keeping it simple...a bench painted as a Rainbow in a park for strangers to sit and talk just about sums up this country at the moment. We teach our children not to speak to strangers and despite all good intentions of the Bench there are plenty of groups for lonely people to go to instead of speaking to some random stranger in a Park....bizarre.

Its some hairbrained virtue signalling leftist councillor idea no doubt who has never set foot in a park in her life

[Glenn.]

Do we know it’s a woman or was that just more dismissal?