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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Then they need to create their own spaces, transwomens safety does not trump womens and we are not human shields, if you allow some biologically male people into women's spaces how do you draw the line? Why is it OK to have women as collateral damage?

As a woman I also feel passionate about this, it's women's rights, you as a man, are passionate about giving away here. Women had to fight for the right to have these spaces, they were necessary for biological differences, based on sex not gender or identity.

I'm all for protecting transpeople but not at the expense of womens or girls safety and dignity.

It’s a very sensitive issue and obviously I cannot understand what it’s like from a women’s perspective and you and Livia have a very valid point but most trans people do not want to make biological women feel unsafe, they too want safe space.

Trans people already have safe spaces within the gay community (gay pubs, social groups etc) but I can only relate it to (and I know it’s not the same at all) growing up gay and wanting to feel comfortable in the environment I am in without people commenting or making ‘jokes’ or asking a lot of inappropriate questions about why im gay etc but i think the issue here is people seeing them as their biological sex and then treating them as such when thats not right.

Most trans people will not be predators within a female only or a male only space especially the ones that are passing as their desired gender.

I don’t think I can comment on male to female transitions and from a women’s perspective but making trans only spaces is not the answer as they should feel safe anywhere.