[InOne]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I have no problems with the Jewish religion because as you say 'they don't cause a fuss' - they just get on with living their lives in their way - without expecting constant 'special considerations'.

Exactly, I really don't get why we feel to bend over backwards for Islam Fear of terrorism, who knows. But having home grown terrorists is where you have to stop and think there might be something wrong. You know that film 'Road to Guantanamo'? About the British Muslims who ended up there? They went on a programme called Lie Lab and admitted they'd been to the training camps and stuff.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by InOne

Exactly, I really don't get why we feel to bend over backwards for Islam Fear of terrorism, who knows. But having home grown terrorists is where you have to stop and think there might be something wrong. You know that film 'Road to Guantanamo'? About the British Muslims who ended up there? They went on a programme called Lie Lab and admitted they'd been to the training camps and stuff.

I know - I often ask myself the question - where do they get those hateful feelings from? Yes, of course, there are a lot of external influences - but what about what they get from the home. People say they are in the minority - maybe they are - but it just seems to me that if they had any respect for their parents and their feelings and had been brought up to respect the country they lived in - that would outweigh the external influences. So I can't help but conclude that maybe, in some cases, they are only repeating what they hear in the home.

I know a lot of youngsters rebel against their parents - but still think that on such a serious issue - they would have more respect for what their parents had taught them - if their parents did not support terrorism.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I know - I often ask myself the question - where do they get those hateful feelings from? Yes, of course, there are a lot of external influences - but what about what they get from the home. People say they are in the minority - maybe they are - but it just seems to me that if they had any respect for their parents and their feelings and had been brought up to respect the country they lived in - that would outweigh the external influences. So I can't help but conclude that maybe, in some cases, they are only repeating what they hear in the home.

I know a lot of youngsters rebel against their parents - but still think that on such a serious issue - they would have more respect for what their parents had taught them - if their parents did not support terrorism.

I think sometimes it is to do with identity crisis really. But what shocked me was how normal the 7/7 bombers really were, they weren't icolated or anything, just shows you anyone can get lead into it. Thing is with Muslims with the whole 'sisters' and 'brothers' thing, they see themselves all as united. So wherever Muslims are in a war or whatever, they seem to take personal offence.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by InOne

I think sometimes it is to do with identity crisis really. But what shocked me was how normal the 7/7 bombers really were, they weren't icolated or anything, just shows you anyone can get lead into it. Thing is with Muslims with the whole 'sisters' and 'brothers' thing, they see themselves all as united. So wherever Muslims are in a war or whatever, they seem to take personal offence.

They do come across as being extremely over-sensitive and take offence at the slightest thing - but then have the audacity to condemn us if we become 'sensitive' to the 'forcefulness' of their religion and its practices - that conveniently gets labelled as racism. I just find myself feeling very distrustful of them and their motives - they have, after all, given us good reason to feel that way! So I for one - make no apologies for feeling that way!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

They do come across as being extremely over-sensitive and take offence at the slightest thing - but then have the audacity to condemn us if we become 'sensitive' to the 'forcefulness' of their religion and its practices - that conveniently gets labelled as racism. I just find myself feeling very distrustful of them and their motives - they have, after all, given us good reason to feel that way! So I for one - make no apologies for feeling that way!

Yep, they play the race card all too quickly. People are starting to see through it now.