[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No

he preyed on her anxiety and her need for male attention, causued by her weight.

In most of these online assault cases the girls are fat.

Its not just fat girls. It couldve been any girl. This guy is just a sick person! He's done it to other girls before who werent fat!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Its not just fat girls. It couldve been any girl. This guy is just a sick person! He's done it to other girls before who werent fat!

he used her anxiety - he preyed on the vulnerable. he would not have done this to a slim attractive girl.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he used her anxiety - he preyed on the vulnerable. he would not have done this to a slim attractive girl.

attractive girls can have low self esteem too LT

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

attractive girls can have low self esteem too LT

indeed but will get male attention. this girl has low self esteem and no male attention etc..

the dice were loaded. she was like the baby antelope being attacked by the jackal whilst the other antelopes could run away.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

indeed but will get male attention. this girl has low self esteem and no male attention etc..

the dice were loaded. she was like the baby antelope being attacked by the jackal whilst the other antelopes could run away.

The problem with your thread is, its title and everything AROUND your comments, seem to emphasize that the main reason why this happened, is because somehow, this girls parents, didnt make sure she wasnt fat. And thats why she got murdered. Thats a bit sick if you ask me!

Yeah he probably thought someone overweight might be easier to manipulate, but if it wasnt her, it couldve been anyone else, overweight or not. They can all fall for it!

Basically, what I am trying to say is, your priorities, really arent in the right order in this case.

I am pretty much really appaled that someone like him, and his background be put in a position to harm again! I think the system failed that girl, and failed him as well. BUt her being overweight, should never be in the discussion. SOme people are overweight when they are teens. SOme are just overweight. Its not a crime to be so, nor should it be!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

The problem with your thread is, its title and everything AROUND your comments, seem to emphasize that the main reason why this happened, is because somehow, this girls parents, didnt make sure she wasnt fat. And thats why she got murdered. Thats a bit sick if you ask me!

Yeah he probably thought someone overweight might be easier to manipulate, but if it wasnt her, it couldve been anyone else, overweight or not. They can all fall for it!

Basically, what I am trying to say is, your priorities, really arent in the right order in this case.

I am pretty much really appaled that someone like him, and his background be put in a position to harm again! I think the system failed that girl, and failed him as well. BUt her being overweight, should never be in the discussion. SOme people are overweight when they are teens. SOme are just overweight. Its not a crime to be so, nor should it be!

yes and I made that point in the first post.

Whilst the thread deals with a horrific murder the topic is more about fat teenage girls and why it is very important that parents and schools should do everything that is humanly possible to avoid obesity at this crucial time in a childs development.

This case highlights an extreme but it also highlights the misery of being a fat teenage girl.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes and I made that point in the first post.

Whilst the thread deals with a horrific murder the topic is more about fat teenage girls and why it is very important that parents and schools should do everything that is humanly possible to avoid obesity at this crucial time in a childs development.

This case highlights an extreme but it also highlights the misery of being a fat teenage girl.

Fair point, but to me its just not that big of an issue in this case!
Look at the perpetrators background! Its like has had about 5 cases of rape, which he eother went to jail for, or were dismissed somehow!

Its like people are telling him go ahead, do it again, you can always get way with it! Unbelievable! HOw he wasnt put away for ever, or at least mentally commited is beyond me! HE even had to give himself up and confess, in order to be taken seriously! Otherwise, he would still be out there.

[supernoodles!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he used her anxiety - he preyed on the vulnerable. he would not have done this to a slim attractive girl.

That is a load of ****,girls of every shape and size are raped and murdered every single day.Its got absolutly nothing to do with her size,it could have been anyone who got into the same situation as Ashleigh.Unfortunatly she fell for that arseholes sick game and thats all there is to it.That prick was out to get anything he could,he diddn`t think Ashleigh would be any easier a target just because she was overweight.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by supernoodles!

That is a load of ****,girls of every shape and size are raped and murdered every single day.Its got absolutly nothing to do with her size,it could have been anyone who got into the same situation as Ashleigh.Unfortunatly she fell for that arseholes sick game and thats all there is to it.That prick was out to get anything he could,he diddn`t think Ashleigh would be any easier a target just because she was overweight.

"Mr Reeds said the teenager suffered from low-esteem and often boys were not interested in her. 'According to her friend, Ashleigh was interested in boys but they, generally, were not interested in her,' Mr Reeds said.
'She is thought to have had low self-esteem and friends thought if a male did show her attention she would likely be flattered by it.'
Mr Reeds said that, after Chapman first made contact with Ashleigh on Facebook, they began using another social network site called Tagged.com or the online messaging service Microsoft Windows Live Messenger, known as MSN."

She sought male attention online, where she could not be seen and she was preyed upon. He lured her with attention, attention that she was starved of because she was fat. She took risks because she had to because she was fat. She put herself in danger for attention, she had to because she was fat.

if she was not fat and was happy with how she looked do you seriously think this would have happened to her?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0hbSPuXvj

[supernoodles!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Mr Reeds said the teenager suffered from low-esteem and often boys were not interested in her. 'According to her friend, Ashleigh was interested in boys but they, generally, were not interested in her,' Mr Reeds said.
'She is thought to have had low self-esteem and friends thought if a male did show her attention she would likely be flattered by it.'
Mr Reeds said that, after Chapman first made contact with Ashleigh on Facebook, they began using another social network site called Tagged.com or the online messaging service Microsoft Windows Live Messenger, known as MSN."

She sought male attention online, where she could not be seen and she was preyed upon. He lured her with attention, attention that she was starved of because she was fat. She took risks because she had to because she was fat. She put herself in danger for attention, she had to because she was fat.

if she was not fat and was happy with how she looked do you seriously think this would have happened to her?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0hbSPuXvj

I do yes!It is a possiblity!Just because your a skinny girl doesn`t mean you automatically get attention from the opposite sex,feel confident and have confidence.There will be many girls out there like Ashleigh who would have found satisfaction from the attention this sicko gave her and won`t be du to their size.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by supernoodles!

I do yes!It is a possiblity!Just because your a skinny girl doesn`t mean you automatically get attention from the opposite sex,feel confident and have confidence.There will be many girls out there like Ashleigh who would have found satisfaction from the attention this sicko gave her and won`t be du to their size.

Well this is the debate. I would disagree and suggest that her weight played a crucial role here.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Well this is the debate. I would disagree and suggest that her weight played a crucial role here.

Whether it did or it didn't is irrelevant, I mean there are plenty of girls who get raped because they're very attractive, should they make themselves unattractive in case they get raped because of it?