[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eigh-Hall.html


This is a horrid squalid story. It would seem that the overweight victim sought male attention online because she was getting none face to face - because she was overweight. She was then picked off by a sadistic killer.

Mr Reeds said the teenager suffered from low-esteem and often boys were not interested in her.

'According to her friend, Ashleigh was interested in boys but they, generally, were not interested in her,' Mr Reeds said.

'She is thought to have had low self-esteem and friends thought if a male did show her attention she would likely be flattered by it.'

The mother is overweight. Now I do not want to detract from her grief or add to it but should mothers not ensure that (especially) their daughters do not become fat in their teenage years. The victims diet almost inevitably will be made up of high sugar high fat items with little fruit or veg and I would wager no exercise.

Fat girls will not get boys or attention. Obviously 99.99% will not be murdered but they will still have a horrible adolescence?

[Niamh.]

Parents have a huge responsibly to their children to make sure they have good diets. Children who are fat because of what they eat, I think is absolutely the parents fault. My kids would eat sweets all day long If I let them.

[Enid]

This is ridiculous. The man is clearly not all there. I mean look at him...



The fact she was overweight had nothing to do with it. He was just praying on a vulnerable young girl.

[Niamh.]

Yeah, of course her being over weight does not make her responsible for being killed that's an idiotic thing to say! It's like saying that a girl who wears a short skirt should expect to get raped!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Enid

This is ridiculous. The man is clearly not all there. I mean look at him...



The fact she was overweight had nothing to do with it. He was just praying on a vulnerable young girl.

No

he preyed on her anxiety and her need for male attention, causued by her weight.

In most of these online assault cases the girls are fat.

[Wildcat!]

I just cant believe how someone with his track record can be free at all! If you commit rape and do it again after being freed, there is no way you should ever be released again! Thats unbelievable!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No

he preyed on her anxiety and her need for male attention, causued by her weight.

In most of these online assault cases the girls are fat.

she was an easy target maybe but so are kids, what's your point? It was his fault because he's a murdering piece of scum

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No

he preyed on her anxiety and her need for male attention, causued by her weight.

In most of these online assault cases the girls are fat.

Its not just fat girls. It couldve been any girl. This guy is just a sick person! He's done it to other girls before who werent fat!

[supernoodles!]

Ashleigh Hall went to my college I knew her.

[cupid stunt]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No

he preyed on her anxiety and her need for male attention, causued by her weight.

In most of these online assault cases the girls are fat.

just LOOK AT THE **** YOU CAN TELL HES A NONCE PUT HIM THOMPSON AND VENABLES ON A ISLAND AND BLOW THE ****ER UP

[supernoodles!]

I`ve not seen that photo before...****ing scum,I hope he rots.

[Twilight]

Hes a vile bastard

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Its not just fat girls. It couldve been any girl. This guy is just a sick person! He's done it to other girls before who werent fat!

he used her anxiety - he preyed on the vulnerable. he would not have done this to a slim attractive girl.

[cupid stunt]

An how do you know that pal? Stop defendin dat 4 eyes **** wot killed her

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he used her anxiety - he preyed on the vulnerable. he would not have done this to a slim attractive girl.

attractive girls can have low self esteem too LT

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

attractive girls can have low self esteem too LT

indeed but will get male attention. this girl has low self esteem and no male attention etc..

the dice were loaded. she was like the baby antelope being attacked by the jackal whilst the other antelopes could run away.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

An how do you know that pal? Stop defendin dat 4 eyes **** wot killed her

life is a bit more complicated than the blurred black and white micro-world that you seem to inhabit.

[supernoodles!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he used her anxiety - he preyed on the vulnerable. he would not have done this to a slim attractive girl.

That is a load of ****,girls of every shape and size are raped and murdered every single day.Its got absolutly nothing to do with her size,it could have been anyone who got into the same situation as Ashleigh.Unfortunatly she fell for that arseholes sick game and thats all there is to it.That prick was out to get anything he could,he diddn`t think Ashleigh would be any easier a target just because she was overweight.

[cupid stunt]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

life is a bit more complicated than the blurred black and white micro-world that you seem to inhabit.

is it ****, i bet youd even defend robert mugabe 4 ****s sake

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

is it ****, i bet youd even defend robert mugabe 4 ****s sake

Is he your dealer?

[cupid stunt]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Is he your dealer?

lol joker

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by supernoodles!

That is a load of ****,girls of every shape and size are raped and murdered every single day.Its got absolutly nothing to do with her size,it could have been anyone who got into the same situation as Ashleigh.Unfortunatly she fell for that arseholes sick game and thats all there is to it.That prick was out to get anything he could,he diddn`t think Ashleigh would be any easier a target just because she was overweight.

"Mr Reeds said the teenager suffered from low-esteem and often boys were not interested in her. 'According to her friend, Ashleigh was interested in boys but they, generally, were not interested in her,' Mr Reeds said.
'She is thought to have had low self-esteem and friends thought if a male did show her attention she would likely be flattered by it.'
Mr Reeds said that, after Chapman first made contact with Ashleigh on Facebook, they began using another social network site called Tagged.com or the online messaging service Microsoft Windows Live Messenger, known as MSN."

She sought male attention online, where she could not be seen and she was preyed upon. He lured her with attention, attention that she was starved of because she was fat. She took risks because she had to because she was fat. She put herself in danger for attention, she had to because she was fat.

if she was not fat and was happy with how she looked do you seriously think this would have happened to her?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0hbSPuXvj

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

indeed but will get male attention. this girl has low self esteem and no male attention etc..

the dice were loaded. she was like the baby antelope being attacked by the jackal whilst the other antelopes could run away.

The problem with your thread is, its title and everything AROUND your comments, seem to emphasize that the main reason why this happened, is because somehow, this girls parents, didnt make sure she wasnt fat. And thats why she got murdered. Thats a bit sick if you ask me!

Yeah he probably thought someone overweight might be easier to manipulate, but if it wasnt her, it couldve been anyone else, overweight or not. They can all fall for it!

Basically, what I am trying to say is, your priorities, really arent in the right order in this case.

I am pretty much really appaled that someone like him, and his background be put in a position to harm again! I think the system failed that girl, and failed him as well. BUt her being overweight, should never be in the discussion. SOme people are overweight when they are teens. SOme are just overweight. Its not a crime to be so, nor should it be!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

The problem with your thread is, its title and everything AROUND your comments, seem to emphasize that the main reason why this happened, is because somehow, this girls parents, didnt make sure she wasnt fat. And thats why she got murdered. Thats a bit sick if you ask me!

Yeah he probably thought someone overweight might be easier to manipulate, but if it wasnt her, it couldve been anyone else, overweight or not. They can all fall for it!

Basically, what I am trying to say is, your priorities, really arent in the right order in this case.

I am pretty much really appaled that someone like him, and his background be put in a position to harm again! I think the system failed that girl, and failed him as well. BUt her being overweight, should never be in the discussion. SOme people are overweight when they are teens. SOme are just overweight. Its not a crime to be so, nor should it be!

yes and I made that point in the first post.

Whilst the thread deals with a horrific murder the topic is more about fat teenage girls and why it is very important that parents and schools should do everything that is humanly possible to avoid obesity at this crucial time in a childs development.

This case highlights an extreme but it also highlights the misery of being a fat teenage girl.

[MeMyselfAndI]

that man obviously has issues that no one likes him and he has no friends