[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Not if you are a Christian it does not.




If you look at the vast majority of political change over the last 500 years it has come about successfully by peaceful methods. That is what works and is lasting.

It isn't or shouldn't be about religion. It is about normal human decency and value for the sanctity of life!

Agree that peaceful methods are the only true and lasting way of achieving political change! It is like people arguing on a chat show - who takes those that shout the loudest seriously - it is the calm, rational people that you listen to!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

It isn't or shouldn't be about religion. It is about normal human decency and value for the sanctity of life!

Agree that peaceful methods are the only true and lasting way of achieving political change! It is like people arguing on a chat show - who takes those that shout the loudest seriously - it is the calm, rational people that you listen to!

It wasn't really about religion though, it was about our country being invaded and our people being murdered and forced to speak another language

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

It wasn't really about religion though, it was about our country being invaded and our people being murdered and forced to speak another language

I didn't mean that - I was responding to LCs comment that the perspectives of Christians didn't change according to where they were sitting!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I didn't mean that - I was responding to LCs comment that the perspectives of Christians didn't change according to where they were sitting!

Apologies then. Though I have to say Christians weren't very innocent in the "not killing people" game!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Apologies then. Though I have to say Christians weren't very innocent in the "not killing people" game!

Hence why I am not religious - more murder has been committed in the name of religion than any other cause - which makes a complete mockery of religion fullstop!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Hence why I am not religious - more murder has been committed in the name of religion than any other cause - which makes a complete mockery of religion fullstop!

Absolutely, That's the crazy thing that I can never understand, you have all these loving guidelines on the one hand and then people killing other people in the name of God on the other, it makes no sense at all

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Hence why I am not religious - more murder has been committed in the name of religion than any other cause - which makes a complete mockery of religion fullstop!

That statement simply underscores how little you understand religion.

Many serial killers say God told them to do it but no one takes that seriously. Killing people full stop is against God's command and so if you do this (and are Christian) you are

1. Not a Christian
2. Are not doing it in the name of religion

You are doing it for evil fallen earthly reasons. The whole point of say being a Christian is the cross and why Jesus dies for us.

Killers give many reasons why they kill but rarely if at all is the real reason put forth...

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That statement simply underscores how little you understand religion.

Many serial killers say God told them to do it but no one takes that seriously. Killing people full stop is against God's command and so if you do this (and are Christian) you are

1. Not a Christian
2. Are not doing it in the name of religion

You are doing it for evil fallen earthly reasons. The whole point of say being a Christian is the cross and why Jesus dies for us.

Killers give many reasons why they kill but rarely if at all is the real reason put forth...

I am not talking about serial killers - I'm talking about all the religious conflicts in the world - past and present.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Apologies then. Though I have to say Christians weren't very innocent in the "not killing people" game!

wrong

the people to whom you refer were not Christians

they were murderers who called themselves Christians. Christianity is measured against the life and teachings of Jesus.

Do not mark Christianity against the fallen ways of man.