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Old 21-07-2010, 12:13 PM #1
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Very noble Niam, but unfortunately even the Irish are not exempt from a little bit of holiday invading themselves....The Scots were an Irish tribe that invaded "Pictland" and did a bit of re-educating the local populace to the Scots way of thinking. Hence you now have Scotland and Scots, and the Picts have been assimilated (or worse).

Dont forget the Irish invasions of Wales and how the Irish took the Welsh as slaves. St Patrick himself Welsh was made a slave by the irish.


Slavery is a part of most nations history, nothing to be proud of but nobody can use it as a stick to beat other nations with as it was universal practice for everyone at one time or another.


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Dont forget the Irish invasions of Wales and how the Irish took the Welsh as slaves. St Patrick himself Welsh was made a slave by the irish.


Slavery is a part of most nations history, nothing to be proud of but nobody can use it as a stick to beat other nations with as it was universal practice for everyone at one time or another.


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I guess this is a good point to add this:

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone"

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"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"
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and

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Nah people in glass houses shouldnt walk around naked.
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Very noble Niam, but unfortunately even the Irish are not exempt from a little bit of holiday invading themselves....The Scots were an Irish tribe that invaded "Pictland" and did a bit of re-educating the local populace to the Scots way of thinking. Hence you now have Scotland and Scots, and the Picts have been assimilated (or worse).
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Niamh has conveniently forgotten that while the British were busing making the Empire and invading all those poor countries, Irishmen joined up locally raised regiments of the British Army voluntarily. Hence such famous and historic names Royal Irish Dragoon Guards, 8th King's Royal Irish Hussars,
Irish Guards. Queen's Royal Irish Hussars, Royal Irish Artillery, Royal Irish Lancers, Royal Irish Rangers, Connaught Rangers, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers,
Prince of Wales's Leinster Regiment, North Irish Horse, Royal Dublin Fusiliers
Royal Irish Fusiliers, Royal Irish Regiment (1684-1922) Royal Ulster Rifles,
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Dont forget the Irish invasions of Wales and how the Irish took the Welsh as slaves. St Patrick himself Welsh was made a slave by the irish.


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I guess this is a good point to add this:

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Touche! I'm obviously not as well up on my history as ye are And I do enjoy reading you're posts. Same can not be said for some other blatantly rude and ignorant posters (one in particular) who shall remain nameless!!!
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Touche! I'm obviously not as well up on my history as ye are And I do enjoy reading you're posts. Same can not be said for some other blatantly rude and ignorant posters (one in particular) who shall remain nameless!!!
Im proud to call myself English....and even British if pushed....but that doesnt mean i agree with all our colonial past.
The fact is though, i wasnt around to influence those times.
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Im proud to call myself English....and even British if pushed....but that doesnt mean i agree with all our colonial past.
The fact is though, i wasnt around to influence those times.
Of course you weren't, it's the more extreme and dis respectful posters that annoy me, I'm actually quite interested in learning more about the histories of different countries and enjoy your posts alot, you seem very knowledgeable on the subject.
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Of course you weren't, it's the more extreme and dis respectful posters that annoy me, I'm actually quite interested in learning more about the histories of different countries and enjoy your posts alot, you seem very knowledgeable on the subject.
Thanks Niam. I think i've mentioned before, that it was the realisation of my own ignorance over the Falklands, that made me start to find out as much of the truth as possible before spouting off.

In your own country for example, its so easy for people from all sides to condemn each other, but i just think its a damn shame that the mistakes of partition and bigotted views have allowed the situation to go on for decades. And we call ourselves civilised. It's taken so long to just talk and even now there are still some that are trying to undermine peace..its so crazy.
I just hope your future family and beyond have better times without conflict.

I may agree with our present wars overseas to a certain degree, but i would just love to make all of our armed forces redundant due to no wars.
There are never any winners in War.
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