[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Yep, absolutely, I could live with it just fine.

Really? I think perhaps a lot of people could sit here and say that NOW, but when it actually comes to taking another person's life, it's a whole different matter. And it doesn't change anything, doesn't take away the crime that's been committed and someone else is also now dead. I just don't see how it makes anything better at all. And the criminal most probably has parents too, that have committed no wrong doing, so the grief and suffering is just being made more and more widespread.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MissKittyFantastico

Really? I think perhaps a lot of people could sit here and say that NOW, but when it actually comes to taking another person's life, it's a whole different matter. And it doesn't change anything, doesn't take away the crime that's been committed and someone else is also now dead. I just don't see how it makes anything better at all. And the criminal most probably has parents too, that have committed no wrong doing, so the grief and suffering is just being made more and more widespread.

obviously I haven't actually ever been in the situation so I could not tell you whether or not I would feel different if something like that ever happened but this is how I think I would feel. Why do you think I would care about the someone else who died when they're the ones who killed my child? I wonder if you would feel different if and when you do have kids? (I'm not saying that to be smart btw I am just genuinely curious about it)

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

obviously I haven't actually ever been in the situation so I could not tell you whether or not I would feel different if something like that ever happened but this is how I think I would feel. Why do you think I would care about the someone else who died when they're the ones who killed my child? I wonder if you would feel different if and when you do have kids? (I'm not saying that to be smart btw I am just genuinely curious about it)

See I really don't like that, 'maybe you will feel different if and when you have kids', I think that's really unfair to use in debates. I know having a child is the most precious gift and the love is meant to be like no other, but I have already said that I would die for people that I love and my initial reaction would be to want to kill anyone that harmed them, I just know I wouldnt be able to actually do it and I don't think it's the answer.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MissKittyFantastico

See I really don't like that, 'maybe you will feel different if and when you have kids', I think that's really unfair to use in debates. I know having a child is the most precious gift and the love is meant to be like no other, but I have already said that I would die for people that I love and my initial reaction would be to want to kill anyone that harmed them, I just know I wouldnt be able to actually do it and I don't think it's the answer.

I didn't mean to offend you with that statement Michelle, like I said I was just genuinely curious about it. I'm in no way belittling how strong your feelings for your loved ones are but the love you have for your children is just different.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I didn't mean to offend you with that statement Michelle, like I said I was just genuinely curious about it. I'm in no way belittling how strong your feelings for your loved ones are but the love you have for your children is just different.

Yes I know you didn't mean to offend me, and you weren't using it in that way, some people do though and I think that's out of order. Yes love for a human being that you yourself have helped create and brought into the world is going to be like no other and I fully understand the want to see justice done for that child, but taking away another person's life, who is also someone ELSE'S child is not the answer imo, and it solves nothing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MissKittyFantastico

Yes I know you didn't mean to offend me, and you weren't using it in that way, some people do though and I think that's out of order. Yes love for a human being that you yourself have helped create and brought into the world is going to be like no other and I fully understand the want to see justice done for that child, but taking away another person's life, who is also someone ELSE'S child is not the answer imo, and it solves nothing.

This may sound a bit harsh but I couldn't give a ***** if they're someone else child if they've taken away mine!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

This may sound a bit harsh but I couldn't give a ***** if they're someone else child if they've taken away mine!

Would you feel the same if the shoe was on the other foot and it was your child that could be executed though? You can't really discount the parent's feelings since they'd feel the same grief as you, possible more due to the fact their child commited the crime.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

This may sound a bit harsh but I couldn't give a ***** if they're someone else child if they've taken away mine!

But by killing someone else's child you are then putting the same grief and suffering that you are going through onto someone else who has done nothing wrong. I just couldn't live with that and wouldn't wish that onto another innocent human being.