[Angus]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

....as I said Labour adopted Tory policy there mate and that was a costly mistake, Thatcher was right New Labour was the best thing she ever did and if you cant see that, thats your problem....Im not shifting the blame Im just pointing out where it all started and you still seem to think its fair to make ordinary hard working families suffer when it wasnt their doing. £30k is **** all for a family in London I dont care what you say, why should hard working Dr's Nurses Teachers Police Firemen (people who save lives and protect you) not have a decent standard of living while bankers are still getting massive bonuses and STILL taking the same risks as they always were?

I'm not your mate, nor ever likely to be with someone with such strange views. Nobody put a gun to Labour's metaphorical head and insisted they adopt "tory" policies. Once again you are making excuses and trying to shift the blame for Labour's OWN policies and decisions. Typical socialist deflection tactics. And as for £30k not being enough for a family to live on, once again I will ask you, what planet are you on? £30k would be riches to my son and his family who have to live in rented accommodation because they cannot get on the housing ladder. The workers you mention get subsidised housing don't they, just one of the perks eh?

There are just as many HARDWORKING people in the private sector, many of whom earn a lot less than £30k. Oh, and I'm supposed to be grateful to the workers you mention who CHOSE their professions and are equally free to CHOOSE to leave them any time they like if they don't like the pay and conditions - but they won't will they because they're bloody well paid compared to some in the private sector who are just as HARDWORKING and also have families to support. And that's coming from someone whose mother was a nurse, and whose ex husband was a fire officer. No-one is MORE entitled to a good standard of living just because they work in those professions. What you are preaching is job discrimination - pretty damn hypocritical from a socialist.