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Originally Posted by angus58

I'm not your mate, nor ever likely to be with someone with such strange views. Nobody put a gun to Labour's metaphorical head and insisted they adopt "tory" policies. Once again you are making excuses and trying to shift the blame for Labour's OWN policies and decisions. Typical socialist deflection tactics. And as for £30k not being enough for a family to live on, once again I will ask you, what planet are you on? £30k would be riches to my son and his family who have to live in rented accommodation because they cannot get on the housing ladder. The workers you mention get subsidised housing don't they, just one of the perks eh?

There are just as many HARDWORKING people in the private sector, many of whom earn a lot less than £30k. Oh, and I'm supposed to be grateful to the workers you mention who CHOSE their professions and are equally free to CHOOSE to leave them any time they like if they don't like the pay and conditions - but they won't will they because they're bloody well paid compared to some in the private sector who are just as HARDWORKING and also have families to support. And that's coming from someone whose mother was a nurse, and whose ex husband was a fire officer. No-one is MORE entitled to a good standard of living just because they work in those professions. What you are preaching is job discrimination - pretty damn hypocritical from a socialist.

Ok let me break it down nice and simple for you, Im so sorry factual information is so baffling and strange to you

1. We're not talking about benefit cheats we're talking about hard working people bringing up the next generation and it being a travesty attacking hard working parents for *peanuts (*peanuts being the revenue generated from your suggestion) when there are billions of pounds lost in tax evasion every year and the richest 10% have got wealthier during the recession and so called period of austerity

2. If that doesnt make you angry theres something wrong with you

3. The so called bloated public sector is being made a scapegoat (along with benefit cheats) to deflect attention away from the real issues. Labours spending barely changed and was sometimes lower than the last Tory govts (aside from a cash injection for crumbling schools and hospitals etc)

4. noones saying the public sector shouldnt take some of the burden but the scale of the cuts on the table is alarming you might want to look into that

5. the lowest paid (public and private sector) without access to affordable housing (still waiting on that one) are living in poverty and thats a travesty. subsidized housing? what planet are you on? Oh and the people that go into nursing, teaching etc value people over money and are not responsible for the state of the lowest paid in the private sector.

6. If you think for one second it would have been different on a Tory watch your quite deluded