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Originally Posted by jedward fever

they still delibrately asked cheryl second so she couldnt take it to deadlock,and it makes a mockery of the show when last year rachel was easily better than lloyd on almost everything,yet he stayed because it was rachels 3rd time in the bottom 2 which is fair enough,but why get rid of rachel for that excuse but not katie who also forgot the words to the song?

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

Yes, but was Sharon asked last of the three? If she was, then the cases are not comparable at all. I don't remember this incident with Sharon, so I don't know. The 'conspiracy theories' are very much centred upon the fact that Cheryl was asked to bow out - as she was obviously going to do, she has the spine strength of an amoeba - early on; so the Deadlock was completely ruled out. In any event, the point of MY post was that Cheryl did absolutely nothing to try and ensure fairness for Treyc. Fairness for her, given that she had only two votes to go home, would be access to the public vote results. That, as I said, was my point.

No, she was asked first - hence why I compared the two. It was the first Live Show of Series 4 and it was the episode where she 'walked off', after refusing to vote when she had two of her acts in the Bottom Two. The same applies here, except Cheryl was asked second, not first. Not much difference.

I don't buy into the fact that the order they were asked in was 'fixed'. They were pushing for time, and probably felt it would be easiest to just go from right to left without thinking it through. I personally think it's irrelevant when a Judge is asked for their vote, when you're asked you give your vote - and if you refuse to vote then that's your decision. The Judge should not be in control of the voting order - and I can guarantee, that if for some bizzarre reason Cheryl had got her way, and they had gone back to her, all of her haters would be doing the rounds of internet forums continuing to claim she is 'favoured' and 'special' etc etc. She can't win.

And 'access to the public votes'? You really think that, upon request of Cheryl and other members of the public, they are going to give out access to the voting figures so far this series? It's never going to happen. Voting figures are released at the end of every series - so as not to effect the outcome of future votes during the series. That's not going to change for anyone, neither should it.

In short; she was required to cast her vote second, she refused - her vote was voided. Simple.