[Zippy]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

They are unfailingly polite, positive and full of energy.

No, they are rude, arrogant and obnoxious. Like when they went into the BB house and rammed past certain HMs.

They only started to tone down the arrogance when they re-appeared for the live shows on XF. Clearly they'd been instructed to change their behaviour by Louis walsh because they needed to actually win votes from the public.

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by Zippy

No, they are rude, arrogant and obnoxious. Like when they went into the BB house and rammed past certain HMs.

They only started to tone down the arrogance when they re-appeared for the live shows on XF. Clearly they'd been instructed to change their behaviour by Louis walsh because they needed to actually win votes from the public.

I don't know if you missed the point of the Ignore the Obvious task. They did exactly what they were asked to do and it was hilarious. The most hilarious part of it was the look on that pathetic twonk Andrew's face. If he was looking at me like that, he'd have got a lot more than rammed. That silly little twerp - who was going to go in and confront Dave, remember?, and ends up at Gloryfest a few months later because his nose is so deeply embedded in the obnoxious JJ's arse. John, or Edward, or whoever it was, didn't ram him half hard enough.

edit: so other when they did what they were asked to do and cause chaos - where's the link for someone who spent time with them describing them as rude and/or obnoxious? I'd love to see it.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

where's the link for someone who spent time with them describing them as rude and/or obnoxious? I'd love to see it.

Link? firstly, I dont care enough to find links, my dear.

and maybe your memory fails you but after the XF pre-recorded auditions were aired everybody was slagging them and commenting on their obnoxious arrogant attitudes. Everybody.

Then, just like with Darius, somebody seemed to have coached them into acting more likeable when they returned for the live XF shows months after. Because being obnoxious and full of yourself doesn't win public votes.

and the reason they don't complain about all the boo's and hatred is because they are well aware that they are DAMN LUCKY to be where they are. Y'know, given that they clearly have no talent whatsoever!

pffft its bad enough arguing with Gaga obsessives now Im having to deal with Jedward fanatics? I wouldnt bother normally but Im bored enough to right now.

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Link? firstly, I dont care enough to find links, my dear.

and maybe your memory fails you but after the XF pre-recorded auditions were aired everybody was slagging them and commenting on their obnoxious arrogant attitudes. Everybody.

Then, just like with Darius, somebody seemed to have coached them into acting more likeable when they returned for the live XF shows months after. Because being obnoxious and full of yourself doesn't win public votes.

and the reason they don't complain about all the boo's and hatred is because they are well aware that they are DAMN LUCKY to be where they are. Y'know, given that they clearly have no talent whatsoever!

pffft its bad enough arguing with Gaga obsessives now Im having to deal with Jedward fanatics? I wouldnt bother normally but Im bored enough to right now.

BIB 1. Who? Simon Cowell and the viewers? How do they know what they're like? Cowell sees less of the contestants than the viewers do and the viewers that I heard talking about it said lots about Jedward being annoying and untalented - but never rude. Never.

BIB 2. I more or less agree with this - I was talking about their attitude, work ethic and energy. Go back and read my initial post again, if you like. Mind you, they can sing as well as Cheryl Cole can..............

BIB 3. My kids are fans of theirs. They are a long distance from my musical tastes, but as I monitor where my children's interests lie, I've reluctantly seen a fair bit of them and have been surprised by how well they come across. Please stop making ridiculous assumptions and base your responses on what I actually said. Not once did I say anything about their singing, dancing or performing, other than that they are 'mildly' talented; as in, they can hold a tune and, if you're a girl aged under 12, are fairly easy on the eye, I would imagine.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Link? firstly, I dont care enough to find links, my dear.

and maybe your memory fails you but after the XF pre-recorded auditions were aired everybody was slagging them and commenting on their obnoxious arrogant attitudes. Everybody.

Then, just like with Darius, somebody seemed to have coached them into acting more likeable when they returned for the live XF shows months after. Because being obnoxious and full of yourself doesn't win public votes.

and the reason they don't complain about all the boo's and hatred is because they are well aware that they are DAMN LUCKY to be where they are. Y'know, given that they clearly have no talent whatsoever!

pffft its bad enough arguing with Gaga obsessives now Im having to deal with Jedward fanatics? I wouldnt bother normally but Im bored enough to right now.

Agreed. Cant remember exactly but in the boot camp auditions where different contestants had to sing with each other didnt they sing over someone else bit or something? They didnt strike me as "unfailingly polite" there..

[James]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

I don't know if you missed the point of the Ignore the Obvious task. They did exactly what they were asked to do and it was hilarious. The most hilarious part of it was the look on that pathetic twonk Andrew's face. If he was looking at me like that, he'd have got a lot more than rammed. That silly little twerp - who was going to go in and confront Dave, remember?, and ends up at Gloryfest a few months later because his nose is so deeply embedded in the obnoxious JJ's arse. John, or Edward, or whoever it was, didn't ram him half hard enough.

edit: so other when they did what they were asked to do and cause chaos - where's the link for someone who spent time with them describing them as rude and/or obnoxious? I'd love to see it.

You can't compare Big Brother housemates with X Factor. Totally different shows. We don't know what X Factor contestants are really like behind-the-scenes. We never get shown that like BB.

[Kerry]

I see Jedward were in the crowd on Dancing on Ice earlier. Apparent guests of Vanilla Ice. Also jibing the judges (well, Jason) - Keeping up appearances??

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by James

You can't compare Big Brother housemates with X Factor. Totally different shows. We don't know what X Factor contestants are really like behind-the-scenes. We never get shown that like BB.

What now? This post refers to John and Edward while they were in the Big Brother house. How is that comparing them to Big Brother housemates? Where did I do that?