[Stu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I hope they win it too, it will be great. Ireland have won it the most times and although countries say they don't want to win, they do.

Go on Jedward, I can't wait.

No, we really don't want to win. We can't afford to host it next year. Father Ted was prophetic and 100% on the money with this.

Also Jedward are not big in Ireland. Let's not go crazy. They fill GAA halls with twelve year olds and have had one novelty #1 that faded as fast as my last hangover. That's not 'big in Ireland'.

Also, that bloke Don Mescal that was in the running last night played all the time in a pub we used to frequent back in Portugal when we used to holiday there.

Far out.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Stu

No, we really don't want to win. We can't afford to host it next year. Father Ted was prophetic and 100% on the money with this.

Also Jedward are not big in Ireland. Let's not go crazy. They fill GAA halls with twelve year olds and have had one novelty #1 that faded as fast as my last hangover. That's not 'big in Ireland'.

Also, that bloke Don Mescal that was in the running last night played all the time in a pub we used to frequent back in Portugal when we used to holiday there.

Far out.

They had a number one album too which had massive advance orders for it too. That's no fluke.

They represent the real fun and full of life side of Ireland, I have many Irish friends and family from my Mother's parents side, they all adore Jedward and are over the moon that they are representing Ireland.

I can really see them doing well in Eurovision and even winning it.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They had a number one album too which had massive advance orders for it too. That's no fluke.

They represent the real fun and full of life side of Ireland, I have many Irish friends and family from my Mother's parents side, they all adore Jedward and are over the moon that they are representing Ireland.

I can really see them doing well in Eurovision and even winning it.

My full time job is living on an island full of Irish people and I can tell you that for the most part you are wrong. Sure some kids and mammies love them - the same ones who got the album - but calling them 'big in Ireland' is ridonkulos. Most Irish people despise and revile them. That's from someone who lives in Ireland.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Stu

My full time job is living on an island full of Irish people and I can tell you that for the most part you are wrong. Sure some kids and mammies love them - the same ones who got the album - but calling them 'big in Ireland' is ridonkulos. Most Irish people despise and revile them. That's from someone who lives in Ireland.

Well obviously I cannot say you are wrong but I have relations living in Ireland too, I don't, but I talk to them the most because I love the Irish people,I have many friends there too, from Mullingar, to Dublin to Killarney and many other places too, who when I talk to them, if we talk about Jedward or the Charts there,they always sing massive praises of them.

I even came to Ireland to see Jedward in concert and the audience was very wide, adults there because they liked them, adults there with their younger kids, teenagers and also other people in their 20s and 30s, none of whom said a bad thing about them as they left,all had a great night and loved every minute of a truly entertaining, lively and varied performance by them.

So I can only speak from what I hear and what I have seen myself,clearly you and I do not talk to the same people but I think you may find Jedward are far more than just well liked in Ireland and also soon they will be over Europe too and the States.

Companies spending money advertising are in a queue to get Jedward for their ads,that in itself shows the potential those comapnies feel they have to reach big audiences.

All that aside, I just hope they do really well in the Contest and I somehow think the vast majority of people in Ireland watching the Eurovision song contest will be right behind them all the way and loving every minute. As I will here in England too.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well obviously I cannot say you are wrong but I have relations living in Ireland too, I don't, but I talk to them the most because I love the Irish people,I have many friends there too, from Mullingar, to Dublin to Killarney and many other places too, who when I talk to them, if we talk about Jedward or the Charts there,they always sing massive praises of them.

I even came to Ireland to see Jedward in concert and the audience was very wide, adults there because they liked them, adults there with their younger kids, teenagers and also other people in their 20s and 30s, none of whom said a bad thing about them as they left,all had a great night and loved every minute of a truly entertaining, lively and varied performance by them.

So I can only speak from what I hear and what I have seen myself,clearly you and I do not talk to the same people but I think you may find Jedward are far more than just well liked in Ireland and also soon they will be over Europe too and the States.

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Companies spending money advertising are in a queue to get Jedward for their ads,that in itself shows the potential those comapnies feel they have to reach big audiences.

Newsflash, advertisers cling to the latest fads and flashes in the pan like leeches to dead flesh. If you judge somebody's merit and lasting appeal on their bankability to advertisers, you are beyond help.

Originally Posted by joeysteele

All that aside, I just hope they do really well in the Contest and I somehow think the vast majority of people in Ireland watching the Eurovision song contest will be right behind them all the way and loving every minute. As I will here in England too.

I know I'll be enjoying it. The results that is.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Newsflash, advertisers cling to the latest fads and flashes in the pan like leeches to dead flesh. If you judge somebody's merit and lasting appeal on their bankability to advertisers, you are beyond help.

I know I'll be enjoying it. The results that is.

Advertisers also know who will increase their sales of their services and products and that's why they not only use celebrities but pay vast sums to secure them for their ads, David Beckham as an example. An extreme example I admit, but Jedward have just landed a million pound advertising deal and that's not peanuts and shows their status as sales and service generators for the companies using them.

This is about the Eurovision song contest though,I just wish them well in it for Ireland, I hope they win and sadly the argument will always be by those who don't like them to say they are talentless and not popular.
However, clearly the Irish people have just voted for them to represent them in the contest. Much to the great delight of those of us who do like them and realise they are young guys who are entertaining and doing their best.
Making a very lucrative and strong living out of it too.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Advertisers also know who will increase their sales of their services and products and that's why they not only use celebrities but pay vast sums to secure them for their ads, David Beckham as an example. An extreme example I admit, but Jedward have just landed a million pound advertising deal and that's not peanuts and shows their status as sales and service generators for the companies using them.

This is about the Eurovision song contest though,I just wish them well in it for Ireland, I hope they win and sadly the argument will always be by those who don't like them to say they are talentless and not popular.
However, clearly the Irish people have just voted for them to represent them in the contest. Much to the great delight of those of us who do like them and realise they are young guys who are entertaining and doing their best.
Making a very lucrative and strong living out of it too.

The entire nation didn't vote on that show for fuck sake. It recieved a very low viewer response and obviously an already established, kid friendly act would have gotten the votes. Lots or parents would have done it for their kids who were in the room watching.

Stop pretending Ireland has a love affair with the two. Out of everyone in Ireland or even out of those who even watched the show how many do you think voted? It was an utterly miniscule, insignifigant amount.