[Iceman]

Originally Posted by InOne

Let us be thankful Jedward Fever isn't here.

I got the jab woop woop..... watch out for Bieber fever too it's more painful than death.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I got the jab woop woop..... watch out for Bieber fever too it's more painful than death.

I meant the member lol That weird one

[Iceman]

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/FAIL

I thougght you meant here as in the UK, im gonna go set myself on fire now.

[Jords]

Thought we were just getting rid of them too. Not heard of them in ages.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Stu

You found Jedward fans at a Jedward concert? Fair fucking play.

Companies are lining up to get Jedward in their adverts because Jedward have their legs spread wide open to be nailed hard and fast by any potential corporation. Louis Walsh and whoever else is pulling the strings is pushing them into adverts hard and fast because it is their main money spin. Most reality stars do the advert circuit in their dying days. Jedward started it right away. They have had more adverts than hit singles and thus have to be considered a first ballot pick for the great party in the underworld.

Ask any Irish member of this forum not named Jessica and they will tell you that in general they are despised by the masses as two insignificant turds. That fact is in no way debased by the fact that they can fill venues and flog greasy Abrakebabra meals to four year olds and their thick mothers. Of course they can. But the masses despise them.

this is true.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I quite like Andy

Andy had a great voice and I personally liked that song he did. It was too good for eurovision if anything!

Ridiculous to lump a great singer in with Jedward.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Newsflash, advertisers cling to the latest fads and flashes in the pan like leeches to dead flesh. If you judge somebody's merit and lasting appeal on their bankability to advertisers, you are beyond help.

I know I'll be enjoying it. The results that is.

Advertisers also know who will increase their sales of their services and products and that's why they not only use celebrities but pay vast sums to secure them for their ads, David Beckham as an example. An extreme example I admit, but Jedward have just landed a million pound advertising deal and that's not peanuts and shows their status as sales and service generators for the companies using them.

This is about the Eurovision song contest though,I just wish them well in it for Ireland, I hope they win and sadly the argument will always be by those who don't like them to say they are talentless and not popular.
However, clearly the Irish people have just voted for them to represent them in the contest. Much to the great delight of those of us who do like them and realise they are young guys who are entertaining and doing their best.
Making a very lucrative and strong living out of it too.

[Kerry]

Well it'll be erm.... entertaining.......

When I posted that thread saying they were in the running I never thought they'd actually win

[red]

I predict they'll win... And I haven't even heard their song , EV is all about the gimmicks and jedward are just that
Perfect.

[Novo]

Ireland won't win because they don't have the backing of enough countries, they will get a few 4 or 5's here and there though

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by red

I predict they'll win... And I haven't even heard their song , EV is all about the gimmicks and jedward are just that
Perfect.

I don't think it is about gimmicks actually.

so I predict they won't win.

I can barely be bothered to say how awful it is. No surprise whatsoever that their vocals are minimilised to the nth degree.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Novo

Ireland won't win because they don't have the backing of enough countries, they will get a few 4 or 5's here and there though

Actually in a more open contest, those kind of votes 5 to 8s could be enough to win if it was near across the board. That of course is 'if' the voting in Eurovision this year will be the same as last year.

[Kerry]

It's been a political contest for years now. I just watch for Terry (past) and now Grahams remarks

[Stu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Advertisers also know who will increase their sales of their services and products and that's why they not only use celebrities but pay vast sums to secure them for their ads, David Beckham as an example. An extreme example I admit, but Jedward have just landed a million pound advertising deal and that's not peanuts and shows their status as sales and service generators for the companies using them.

This is about the Eurovision song contest though,I just wish them well in it for Ireland, I hope they win and sadly the argument will always be by those who don't like them to say they are talentless and not popular.
However, clearly the Irish people have just voted for them to represent them in the contest. Much to the great delight of those of us who do like them and realise they are young guys who are entertaining and doing their best.
Making a very lucrative and strong living out of it too.

The entire nation didn't vote on that show for fuck sake. It recieved a very low viewer response and obviously an already established, kid friendly act would have gotten the votes. Lots or parents would have done it for their kids who were in the room watching.

Stop pretending Ireland has a love affair with the two. Out of everyone in Ireland or even out of those who even watched the show how many do you think voted? It was an utterly miniscule, insignifigant amount.

[Novo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Actually in a more open contest, those kind of votes 5 to 8s could be enough to win if it was near across the board. That of course is 'if' the voting in Eurovision this year will be the same as last year.

But it hasn't been an open contest for years.. so it's not going to be enough, there is always a few countries that create a massive lead over the rest and pick up 10 & 12 points from neighbouring countries

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Novo

But it hasn't been an open contest for years.. so it's not going to be enough, there is always a few countries that create a massive lead over the rest and pick up 10 & 12 points from neighbouring countries

You are absolutely right, but Ireland is not as hated like the UK is across the newer countries who vote highly for each other,if the song is liked and you have 2 full of life characters like Jedward then as with Norway one year who always got near no points every year, then the votes can swing their way.

I accept its a political contest now but Ireland is seen as a better country than the UK.

To the comment by Stu that the whole of Ireland didn't vote for Jedward to be the representing act for the country,that's also true , but of all the choices to represent Ireland in the contest, they were the ones chosen by public vote, so maybe you are right that the whole country may not love Jedward but they certainly don't appear to dislike them much either.Certainly not the way you do anyway.

I think they are well suited to Eurovision, I think Louis also knows full well, this can really establish them worldwide,they are likely to at some point in the future become like an Ant and Dec, love them or hate them,they are here to stay, the haters of them can huff and puff all they like until they go red in the face but Louis is going to keep these lads well in the media and develop a massive career for them on TV,likely even in the States too.

[Stu]

Yes, they do dislike them much. Take the Crazy Frog analogy. It was a number one song yet most people disliked it. Hated it. Simple. I don't know how else to explain this to you.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

It's been a political contest for years now. I just watch for Terry (past) and now Grahams remarks

This.

It was one of the highlights of the show when I used to watch it when Terry Wogan was presenting - with his wicked one liners and pot shots at which country would vote for which, with his not so 'tongue in cheek' acknowledgement that allies were sooking up each others arses to keep in each others good books. Even if the songs were the worst thing ever.....

As I said earlier: the contest is a joke. Anyone taking it seriously need their heads looked at.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Stu

Yes, they do dislike them much. Take the Crazy Frog analogy. It was a number one song yet most people disliked it. Hated it. Simple. I don't know how else to explain this to you.

I think its best that you and I just agree to diagree on this one.
I know what my friends,their friends and my family all across Ireland think of Jedward and its nothing like the massive dislike you are stating.

Neither of us know the whole populations thoughts, but it seems when it has the chance, Ireland always supports Jedwards ventures, buys their records and gave them a number one album. Now of those who did vote more wanted Jedward to represent their country in Eurovision. So they can't be that disliked there.

I will leave it at that and agree to disagree with you.All the best to you anyway.

[Stu]

No, neither of us know the whole populations thoughts but I have the advantage of living here. Ireland doesn't 'support Jedward ventures'. The people who buy Jedward products do. Again I point you to the Crazy Frog analogy. Your line of logic here is baffling. It seems to be just the Irish who support IRA attacks too. Well, a few of us do. We have as many hardcore republicans as we do Jedward fans I imagine. It doesn't mean the entire nation has a fascination with driving boats armed with plastic explosives into the river Thames for christ sake.

By the way you should check out the sales figures for Irish album charts. It really doesn't take a lot to get to number one.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

This.

...

As I said earlier: the contest is a joke. Anyone taking it seriously need their heads looked at.

I agree Pyramid, it is more of a joke but a highly prestigious one for International recognition. I actually find I like the diversity of the other countries and the songs they put in,its a highly enjoyable joke but that's only my opinion.

I don't take it seriously,but enjoy it enormously.as do all my student friends who watch it avidly too. It still gets a massive audience watching it and voting in it too.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree Pyramid, it is more of a joke but a highly prestigious one for International recognition. I actually find I like the diversity of the other countries and the songs they put in,its a highly enjoyable joke but that's only my opinion.

I don't take it seriously,but enjoy it enormously.as do all my student friends who watch it avidly too. It still gets a massive audience watching it and voting in it too.

Highly prestigious? Oh come on!!!

It's never that in it's life. Entertaining in a completely inane way, but never ever could it be considered of prestigious International recognition.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Stu

No, neither of us know the whole populations thoughts but I have the advantage of living here. Ireland doesn't 'support Jedward ventures'. The people who buy Jedward products do. Again I point you to the Crazy Frog analogy. Your line of logic here is baffling. It seems to be just the Irish who support IRA attacks too. Well, a few of us do. We have as many hardcore republicans as we do Jedward fans I imagine. It doesn't mean the entire nation has a fascination with driving boats armed with plastic explosives into the river Thames for christ sake.

By the way you should check out the sales figures for Irish album charts. It really doesn't take a lot to get to number one.

I have said I think it best we agree to diagree on Jedward in the Eurovision song contest.

Your post above has me totally baffled and I have no intention of responding to the contents of it.

I have enjoyed mosy of our banter on theis and wish you well, all best wishes,have a good remainder of the weekend.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have said I think it best we agree to diagree on Jedward in the Eurovision song contest.

Your post above has me totally baffled and I have no intention of responding to the contents of it.

I have enjoyed mosy of our banter on theis and wish you well, all best wishes,have a good remainder of the weekend.

Yes you said it was best to agree to disagree then continued on arguing, which is why I responded.

If you want to agree to disagree you don't need my permission. Just stop replying to my posts.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Highly prestigious? Oh come on!!!

It's never that in it's life. Entertaining in a completely inane way, but never ever could it be considered of prestigious International recognition.

Surprised you take that line sadly, it used to be the vehicle for some artists to break through worldwide, Celine Dion,Johnny Logan had massive world success and they were in Eurovision but it openred the door for loads of UK acts across Europe after they represented the UK.

The last 7 or 8 years it has lost that status but it did if you read the history of Eurovision,open the door for many acts worldwide that otherwise may have stayed closed to them.