[pices]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I just find it odd that, considering people are so opposed to their relationship, they carry on hunting down pictures and information about them.



What's that supposed to mean

Just that we had exactly the same scenario and arguments over Luke and Bex, they too lived together for about 18 months, guess what/ when they fell out it really was a fall out and they admitted to it all being fake for the mag deals etc, they actually hated each other after a few short weeks.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I just find it odd that, considering people are so opposed to their relationship, they carry on hunting down pictures and information about them.



What's that supposed to mean

What pictures have I hunted down? None.

Why shouldn't people comment on them or any other BB housemate that chooses to keep themselves in the public eye - as I asked earlier there, does this mean that because someone left the BB house a long time ago, that they cannot or should not be discussed on a forum dedicated to BB?

JJJ are in this for money making: no other reason - even when it means bringing up abortion that she had years ago. The woman has no shame if there is a pay cheque at the end of it.

If the didn't want the public to discuss them or be in the public eye, they wouldn't be willing to ***** themselves to the media.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by pices

Just that we had exactly the same scenario and arguments over Luke and Bex, they too lived together for about 18 months, guess what/ when they fell out it really was a fall out and they admitted to it all being fake for the mag deals etc, they actually hated each other after a few short weeks.

Oh, I didnt know that, never saw that series

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

What pictures have I hunted down? None.

Why shouldn't people comment on them or any other BB housemate that chooses to keep themselves in the public eye - as I asked earlier there, does this mean that because someone left the BB house a long time ago, that they cannot or should not be discussed on a forum dedicated to BB?

JJJ are in this for money making: no other reason - even when it means bringing up abortion that she had years ago. The woman has no shame if there is a pay cheque at the end of it.

If the didn't want the public to discuss them or be in the public eye, they wouldn't be willing to ***** themselves to the media.

You havent hunted down pictures but my post was never directed at you personally was it?

So you dont like them but you like having them in the public eye so you cant bitch about them?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh, I didnt know that, never saw that series



You havent hunted down pictures but my post was never directed at you personally was it?

So you dont like them but you like having them in the public eye so you cant bitch about them?

Oh excuse me - I'm not psychic! You quote a post of mine and make comment about hunting down pictures etc..... when I haven't done so. Perhaps you might make your posts a little clearer in line with addressing what the quote is saying then.

Your last sentence doesn't make sense btw!!!

You call it bitching - I call it my view that I see two people who are not in a loving romantic relationship, pretending that they are, for money. I'm probably closer to the truth.

See you are avoiding my question about making mention of any BB housemate and why people should want to discuss them (or any other BB housemate).....

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Oh excuse me - I'm not psychic! You quote a post of mine and make comment about hunting down pictures etc..... when I haven't done so. Perhaps you might make your posts a little clearer in line with addressing what the quote is saying then.

Your last sentence doesn't make sense btw!!!

You call it bitching - I call it my view that I see two people who are not in a loving romantic relationship, pretending that they are, for money. I'm probably closer to the truth.

See you are avoiding my question about making mention of any BB housemate and why people should want to discuss them (or any other BB housemate).....

I quoted a post of yours becaue you were the one who replied to my general post Then I referred to those who did find pictures "people" not you personally.

But I'm not going to get dragged into an argument over this, fine, carry on if you choose

Edit - wait, yes that last sentance didnt make sense, it was supposed to be "can bitch about them" not "cant"

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Possibly something to do with the fact that this forum is called Tibbs, and is effectively devoted in the main to Big Brother? perhaps we should all refrain from making comment about any BB housemate from the past entirely then?

And yet the very people banging on about "being obsessed" etc, are on this thread. If they're not interested, why bother commenting?? I don't make a habit of frequenting various sports threads and other specialist threads in order to enquire what the hell is up with folk who find those sports or topics interesting.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I quoted a post of yours becaue you were the one who replied to my general post Then I referred to those who did find pictures "people" not you personally.

But I'm not going to get dragged into an argument over this, fine, carry on if you choose

Hardly an argument.

You still haven't replied to the question I asked about you saying why should anyone care so much after this length of time ..... that could be said any time any thread pops up about any BB housemate on this forum. Personally I'd have thought it stranger for a forum such as Tibbs to NOT have threads discussing housemates of times gone by.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by pices

Hmmm, Lubex

The other "gruesome twosome" .....

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Hardly an argument.

You still haven't replied to the question I asked about you saying why should anyone care so much after this length of time ..... that could be said any time any thread pops up about any BB housemate on this forum. Personally I'd have thought it stranger for a forum such as Tibbs to NOT have threads discussing housemates of times gone by.

[Princess]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Ah...the old nugget term 'haters' always comes in play.

You don't have to hate a person to simply believe that they are not in love. That's not hating. It's called an opinion.

'JJJ'. didn't I read on recently you chastising someone for using such nicknames .......... rather than John James / Josie etc....????

Yeah I said John wasn't called JJ cos he isn't,John and Josie don't mind being called JJJ,they've said

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Princess

Yeah I said John wasn't called JJ cos he isn't,John and Josie don't mind being called JJJ,they've said

ah....so it's okay for you to critisise others for abbreviating their names on a forum and making it a big issue - but you are happy to use abbreviations yourself when it suits you.


How hypocritical.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Princess

Yeah I said John wasn't called JJ cos he isn't,John and Josie don't mind being called JJJ,they've said

Who cares what they don't mind being called - they're fair game for any criticism if they want to put themselves in the public eye so they better start growing thicker skins.

[patsylimerick]

So while I've been away the two most hackneyed, predicatable and redundant arguments known to forums have raised their feeble wee heads.

A: Youse are haterzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

B: Why are you still talking about them?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

So while I've been away the two most hackneyed, predicatable and redundant arguments known to forums have raised their feeble wee heads.

A: Youse are haterzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

B: Why are you still talking about them?

Now what's that term again for that....... how long it takes for the obvious to crop up!!! LOL

[Omah]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

So while I've been away the two most hackneyed, predicatable and redundant arguments known to forums have raised their feeble wee heads.

A: Youse are haterzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

B: Why are you still talking about them?

I'm waiting for "Ur jus jellus" .....

[James]

Originally Posted by angus58

Precisely, and yet the Josie and John James supporters have no more authentic information or knowledge to go on than those that despise and detest them. Therefore it comes down to a matter of perception and individual opinion.

If a supporter is going to tell me that I don't know them because only a microcosm of their true selves and lives is revealed by their twitter and other media, and that I've got it all wrong, then I will use the same argument back at them since they don't have anything else to base their opinions on either.

Well if two people say they are together it is usually accepted as being true. That's the way it normally works, only in Big Brother world is a different standard applied, with the subject being discussed months after the show has finished.

Most people don't lie about such matters. You'd just end up making a fool of yourself if you did. And if a couple wanted to fake a relationship (if it actually happens?) it would probably last a few weeks before going seperate ways. Pretty ridiculous to imagine continually having to put out a made-up story about your life to anyone you meet and asks, online and the media. You'd be living your life as a lie.

But if the evidence is being weighed, on the one hand you've got a photograph where one person is leaning to the side and a bunch of irrelevant, selective bits of trivia off Twitter which can be interpreted any number of ways. One the other hand to suggest it is real you've got the two people involved who say it is real, close friends that know them who say it is genuine and people who have met them who all say they look genuine.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by James

Well if two people say they are together it is usually accepted as being true. That's the way it normally works, only in Big Brother world is a different standard applied, with the subject being discussed months after the show has finished.

Most people don't lie about such matters. You'd just end up making a fool of yourself if you did. And if a couple wanted to fake a relationship (if it actually happens?) it would probably last a few weeks before going seperate ways. Pretty ridiculous to imagine continually having to put out a made-up story about your life to anyone you meet and asks, online and the media. You'd be living your life as a lie.

But if the evidence is being weighed, on the one hand you've got a photograph where one person is leaning to the side and a bunch of irrelevant, selective bits of trivia off Twitter which can be interpreted any number of ways. One the other hand to suggest it is real you've got the two people involved who say it is real, close friends that know them who say it is genuine and people who have met them who all say they look genuine.

I will say what has been said before on here-- Luke and Bex - spun out for as long as they could before they simply couldn't keep up the pretence - at the cost of making a lot of money from the very gullible fans who stupidly fell for the obviously scripted and played out romance - for nothing more than fame and fortune at the expense of conning the naive public.

Outside BB?
Elton and Renata (or whatever his wife was called)
Jackson and Presley
Simon Cowell and several other women

there are many in the past and present who 'present' themselves as a couple when in fact, there is little romantic or sexual intimacy going on at a true and genunie level - which gives rise to such speculation -rightly and wrongly

When the lure of a fake relationship is enough to project one into the media spotlight and allow much money to be made, OR to project some sense of being hetrosexual for the massess - there is a hidden agenda to do so - either to court the public or for financial gain only. This is precisely what I believe JJJ are doing.

[Vicky.]

Right, deleted a load of offtopic posts in here. Replied to PM sent to me about an issue that was raised also

Next person to take this offtopic/insult anyone else will get a hefty infraction from me.

Peace.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Next person to take this offtopic/insult anyone else will get a hefty infraction from me.

Peace.

[James]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I will say what has been said before on here-- Luke and Bex - spun out for as long as they could before they simply couldn't keep up the pretence - at the cost of making a lot of money from the very gullible fans who stupidly fell for the obviously scripted and played out romance - for nothing more than fame and fortune at the expense of conning the naive public.

Outside BB?
Elton and Renata (or whatever his wife was called)
Jackson and Presley
Simon Cowell and several other women

there are many in the past and present who 'present' themselves as a couple when in fact, there is little romantic or sexual intimacy going on at a true and genunie level - which gives rise to such speculation -rightly and wrongly

When the lure of a fake relationship is enough to project one into the media spotlight and allow much money to be made, OR to project some sense of being hetrosexual for the massess - there is a hidden agenda to do so - either to court the public or for financial gain only. This is precisely what I believe JJJ are doing.

Attempt at on-topicness.

I wish I knew more about these celebs to comment properly (and I didn't pay much attention to them) but didn't Luke and Bex have a rather acrimonious break-up? That would suggest that there was some emotion involved rather than simply a cold business relationship running its course.

Of the others I think MJ and Lisa-Marie Presley was probably real? I remember she was quoted as being pretty sad when he died.

Don't know anything about the others. Not sure I even knew Elton John was married.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by James

Attempt at on-topicness.

I wish I knew more about these celebs to comment properly (and I didn't pay much attention to them) but didn't Luke and Bex have a rather acrimonious break-up? That would suggest that there was some emotion involved rather than simply a cold business relationship running its course.

Of the others I think MJ and Lisa-Marie Presley was probably real? I remember she was quoted as being pretty sad when he died.

Don't know anything about the others. Not sure I even knew Elton John was married.

Luke and Bex admitted that they couldn't really stand each other ....... and I imagine that being released from the shackles of being 'in a supposed relationship' must have been trying (to say the least). This is what I think the situ with JJJ is also: and why Josie freely admits that they argue all the time.

(and yep, on a side note: Elton was married for 3 years, and after divorcing, a few years on he finally admitted to being gay).

[Vicky.]

Aww is that true about luke and bex?

They are my fave BB couple ever, such an odd match yet so perfect for each other IMO

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

(and yep, on a side note: Elton was married for 3 years, and after divorcing, a few years on he finally admitted to being gay).

Her name was Renata and I think she was German if I remember right?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Aww is that true about luke and bex?

They are my fave BB couple ever, such an odd match yet so perfect for each other IMO

When they were in the audience for the last shows on the side show.... you could almost feel the hate between them.

Originally Posted by angus58

Her name was Renata and I think she was German if I remember right?

think so..... and I think this is exactly what role Josie is playing in this current relationship - she may have feeling for JJ, but I very much doubt they are reciprocated on the level she may wish/want. IMO

[James]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Luke and Bex admitted that they couldn't really stand each other ....... and I imagine that being released from the shackles of being 'in a supposed relationship' must have been trying (to say the least). This is what I think the situ with JJJ is also: and why Josie freely admits that they argue all the time.

(and yep, on a side note: Elton was married for 3 years, and after divorcing, a few years on he finally admitted to being gay).

Do you have a link to the Luke and Bex story?

I'd say the arguing thing is a sign of realness. A fake couple would sit back and wait for the money to roll in.