[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by angus58

Whatever you may say about this issue, it is still just YOUR belief which you are trying to push onto others. I'm with the US Supreme Court on this, in that a baby is a baby once it is "viable", ie able to theoretically live independent from the woman outside of the womb. Meanwhile you still do not have the right to compel a woman to carry a baby she doesn't want (for whatever reason) for nine months, with all the potential attendant physical dangers and emotional traumas.

You might well refuse to play god, but being a man, you have the luxury of never having to be in a position to have to make that decision and live with it.

We're all connected in this world, honey. If I unintentionally impregnate a woman I certainly won't have any kind of luxury. Maybe next time we're deciding whether or not to go to war we should ignore the females since they have the "luxury" of not doing the fighting? Like I say, we're all connected.

In this day and age with the technology available, the "physical dangers" are at a minimum and if there is a potential danger the body will almost always abort it naturally. And "emotional traumas"? Come on. Like I said earlier, women are raised to be weak people.

You try to spin it like I'm trying to "compel" women like they all innocently and without reason just randomly become pregnant. I don't compel them to have sex so I don't see how I'm compelling them to do anything. You tell me: Are women stupid? Do they not know what may happen if they sleep with a guy? Whenever this debate occurs it's always framed around bodily freedom but it ought to be framed around the freedom to be a slut without consequence because that's what it, for the most part, is about. You show me a rabid pro-choice female freak, and I'll bet money that she's a bona fide slut.

And, yeah, I know I'm gonna get hell from you and others for what I've said here but whatever. I'll take it with a smile.