[Beastie]

PLEASE don't turn BB like The Only Way is Essex!

That show is just a trashy guilty pleasure for most of us. Full of people we can laugh at and look down upon with their "shutup" and "whatever". People who can't have a proper conversation. If we want to just see boobs and bums we have bloody porn and magazines!!

For god sake.. no wannabes! Except for the lights of Corin BB11 who yes.. was thick as a plank but was entertaining and out there.

Or Chanelle BB8 who had a few brain cells and could speak some Spanish and play the violin well.

Karly from BB10 was a BORE though. Apparently she was giving it all in the auditions but turned out to be a dullard. Her boyfriend was 10x more entertaining who only stayed in for 6 days while she stayed in for 5 weeks!

Also no one should know each other. lol

If you want young, good looking people... why not get young people in their early 20's who have finished Uni and want a summer in the BB house or who have just come back from travelling? People with intelligence and talent would be good!

Some oldies in their 30s/40s/50s who are healthy of course but have already experienced a full on life. Brought kids up. Worked hard for a living.. etc..

Enough of these dull wannabes!

Unless you are Bex BB9 who wasn't too attractive but she was big and bubbly and up for a laugh!

I couldn't care less if the house was full of ugly people.

ENTERTAINMENT. Look back at bb5 and bb6 for ideas DESMOND!!!!!! Gaaaaah.

[CharlieO]

Agree fully. I like TOWIE but if BB turns into it I will hate it with a passion.

[BringItOn]

It's gonna happen no matter what :/

[Pyramid*]

I really don't think there is any other way for it to go now. Contestants are far too media savvy now.

It will NEVER be the show it was.

Sad, but true.

[Jordan.]

It not just about the contestants.

C5 probably want it to be a media hit and theirs no denying thats what TOWIE is right now.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

BB is nothing like TOWIE complete opposite programmes

Not gonna happen

Towie is scripted

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

BB is nothing like TOWIE complete opposite programmes

Not gonna happen

Towie is scripted

Please tell me that you don't seriously believe that BB that doesn't have it's own script?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Please tell me that you don't seriously believe that BB that doesn't have it's own script?

Stories are planned out depending on what they think is entertaining or what has longevity but is still based on the housemates own actions. The housemates are not given scripts like they are on TOWIE.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Stories are planned out depending on what they think is entertaining or what has longevity but is still based on the housemates own actions. The housemates are not given scripts like they are on TOWIE.

In your own words. "Stories are planned out". ie: there is a script at the heart of it all.

Case closed!!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

In your own words. "Stories are planned out". ie: there is a script at the heart of it all.

Case closed!!

No

You are not understanding.

In the edit process the editors will pick out ongoing stories which they think is entertaining but these come from the housemates naturally WITHOUT THEM BEING TOLD WHAT TO SAY BY SCRIPT. So therfor is not scripted


Stop trying to start an argument coz your bored and home alone with your cats on a Friday night coz i cant be @rsed.

Case closed

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No

You are not understanding.

In the edit process the editors will pick out ongoing stories which they think is entertaining but these come from the housemates naturally WITHOUT THEM BEING TOLD WHAT TO SAY BY SCRIPT. So therfor is not scripted


Stop trying to start an argument coz your bored and home alone with your cats on a Friday night coz i cant be @rsed.

Case closed

No, I understand perfectly. There is a design around what or how BB would like the show to go. You said it yourself.

The perception is in how literally one takes the definition on the word, SCRIPT.

If there is any external influence by BB, in any way of manipulating, editing to suit a 'particular storyline' or to influence a particular storyline (ie poss fauxmances etc) - it cannot and can never be classed as unscripted in the true sense.

That's my view. Feel free to disagee, but my stance remains. It's my opinon, not an argument. Where it turns into an 'argument' is when one person refuses to accept another's opinion. It certainly turns into an argument when one member cannot debate or discuss without resorting to personal insults on another member.

You have your opinion, I have mine and never the twain shall meet.

Re your comment - BIB. I'll ask you to be respectful - it's the decent thing to do - even if you disagree.

ps. I only have the one cat...not cats !!! LOL

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Stories are planned out depending on what they think is entertaining or what has longevity but is still based on the housemates own actions. The housemates are not given scripts like they are on TOWIE.

Towie is pretty much the same. There are no scripts just engineered situations. It's easy for producers in BB to do the exact same thing if they wanted. The Essex/Geordie craze will run out soon hopefully so the 2nd season could be a comeback.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

TOWIE is actually scripted ie: the characters are told what to say.

I know people who worked as extras on there and it is 100% SCRIPTED.

BB is manipulated but in regards to being "scripted" the housemates are not told what to say or stand in a certain position for the cameras to get the best angle or reshoot scenes like TOWIE housemates just react naturally to a situation they are in.

ps: I like cats

[CharlieO]

The Only Way Is Essex (often abbreviated as TOWIE)[2][3] is an English BAFTA award-winning reality show based in Essex, England. It shows "real people in modified situations, saying unscripted lines but in a structured way."[4]

It's not that important but it's not totally scripted. The powers producers have over the way housemates act is incredible they have psychologists to teach them how to trigger situations. Also they control the highlights which are completely unfair biased viewing.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

It's not that important but it's not totally scripted. The powers producers have over the way housemates act is incredible they have psychologists to teach them how to trigger situations. Also they control the highlights which are completely unfair biased viewing.

Ofcourse it is thats what keeps the show entertaining.

I dont think people realise how hard it is either to condense 24 hours of footage into 50 minutes .

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

okay

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Scott

okay

Huh?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

TOWIE is actually scripted ie: the characters are told what to say.

I know people who worked as extras on there and it is 100% SCRIPTED.

BB is manipulated but in regards to being "scripted" the housemates are not told what to say or stand in a certain position for the cameras to get the best angle or reshoot scenes like TOWIE housemates just react naturally to a situation they are in.

ps: I like cats

If BB is manipulated, then it cannot be considered a natural flow if it is being interfered with in respect of editing etc.

It's precisely the reason why I hold the view I do. There IS manipulation - therefore it is not natural progression without any interference from the BB producers, directors et all.

[keithafc]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Ofcourse it is thats what keeps the show entertaining.

I dont think people realise how hard it is either to condense 24 hours of footage into 50 minutes .

Sad people actually moan about the highlights show and say Live feed is better. Is it by ****.

[keithafc]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

If BB is manipulated, then it cannot be considered a natural flow if it is being interfered with in respect of editing etc.

It's precisely the reason why I hold the view I do. There IS manipulation - therefore it is not natural progression without any interference from the BB producers, directors et all.

You can't compare Big Brother highlights show to TOWIE which is actors acting a TV programme. Big Brother is housemates who might on purpose or play it up in the house, but it is not scripted via peice of paper of what to say.

That is what seperates the great BB housemates from the bad. It isn't the same thing.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

If BB is manipulated, then it cannot be considered a natural flow if it is being interfered with in respect of editing etc.

It's precisely the reason why I hold the view I do. There IS manipulation - therefore it is not natural progression without any interference from the BB producers, directors et all.

Not the same as actors being scripted though.

Different situations simple as that

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by keithafc

You can't compare Big Brother highlights show to TOWIE which is actors acting a TV programme. Big Brother is housemates who might on purpose or play it up in the house, but it is not scripted via peice of paper of what to say.

That is what seperates the great BB housemates from the bad. It isn't the same thing.

I can compare - as it is how I personally see the situation, for the reasons I have already mentioned. You may of course disagree, which you clearly do, but that does not mean that your statment of, "You can't compare" is the carte blanche response.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Not the same as actors being scripted though.

Different situations simple as that

See above.

[keithafc]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I can compare - as it is how I personally see the situation, for the reasons I have already mentioned. You may of course disagree, which you clearly do, but that does not mean that your statment of, "You can't compare" is the carte blanche response.




See above.

What is your point though mate? Actors are told "AND ACTION" and when to start talking to film a scene. Big Brother on the other hand is different. The housemates in terms of just normal conversations aren't told when to talk. It just happens.

That doesn't mean editing doesn't happen, of course it does. You can't have it being live for 24/7 on Channel 4 as it would be beyond boring and no one would watch it.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by keithafc

What is your point though mate? Actors are told "AND ACTION" and when to start talking to film a scene. Big Brother on the other hand is different. The housemates in terms of just normal conversations aren't told when to talk. It just happens.

That doesn't mean editing doesn't happen, of course it does. You can't have it being live for 24/7 on Channel 4 as it would be beyond boring and no one would watch it.

Read my previous posts. Therefore it is not what it was intended to be. It is maniupulated. It is edited to the viewer in favour of the slant that the producers wish the programme to follow - in an effort to entice viewers. It may not be scriped verbatim, but it most certainly is not aired without much influence from the programme makers. Thus it is not entirely. It is tweaked, pulled and nipped within an inch of it's life of the true version. As we hear from the vast majority of those who have taken part as contestants - when the come out of the house - they often try to explain that 'it wasnt quite like that / that's not what happened in truth' ... because it is edited to suit the programme makers. It is done so in an effort to entice viewers with maniupulated edits - that do not show all - or show it as it really 'was'.

The viewer is given a distorted vision - and not the clear cut, full version.

ps. The name is Pyramid*. not 'mate'. Cheers!

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Towie is pretty much the same. There are no scripts just engineered situations. It's easy for producers in BB to do the exact same thing if they wanted. The Essex/Geordie craze will run out soon hopefully so the 2nd season could be a comeback.

Of course TOWIE is scripted. They have to take god knows how many takes. How do you think they get the lighting so right? Fauxmance stories like Mark and Lauren engaged and all that bollocks is part of the shows script. They are both shagging elsewhere in real life. lol