[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Niall

Well my opinion on Uni is that I think they should be factored into the educational system and be made free of charge like all other schools (or if necessary given a small charge for things like books etc).

But imo I don't think they should those types of classes and education should be made to have fees. They should be free to attend. Or if thats not feasible, then maybe a small fee again to maintain books etc.

Thats what I think anyways.

Move to Scotland and your wish may just be granted !!

Mabye the Scottish Government think this too....

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Move to Scotland and your wish may just be granted !!

Mabye the Scottish Government think this too....

I could never move. I love where I live far too much.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Niall

I could never move. I love where I live far too much.

Even at the expense of your education and possible future? That would indicate to me that you may possibly regard neither as a priority for you, either now, or in later life.

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Even at the expense of your education and possible future? That would indicate to me that you may possibly regard neither as a priority for you, either now, or in later life.

Well maybe in future but now I'm quite happy to stay right where I am.

[dizzy bint]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

LOL... You've thrown me back to reminiscing days now!!! No wonder we had the leckie cut off.... gran used to light the coal fire - and in really bad winter days: used to put the cooker on - elec oven, leave the oven door open to try to warm us up - because 'one of us' would be in the living room, in front of the coal fire: having a bath in the steel tub.

Feck... I'm laughing like hell here now!!!!

toast from the fire was brill btw!

Awww happy days. We didn't feel deprived did we. In those days we could play out in the street and run down to the corner shop to buy Dad's baccy.

If you'd told me then that I was going to end up at an all girl's boarding school playing Lacrosse and eating chocolate out of a tuck box I would have look at you as if you were mad .

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by dizzy bint

Awww happy days. We didn't feel deprived did we. In those days we could play out in the street and run down to the corner shop to buy Dad's baccy.

If you'd told me then that I was going to end up at an all girl's boarding school playing Lacrosse and eating chocolate out of a tuck box I would have look at you as if you were mad .

PMSL..... Yep, me too!!!

aye, my parents tried the All Girls School palava..... cant recall the name of the place, was in Sevenoaks, and run by The Montagues (I remember my dad pronouncing their name incorrectly and the owner was 'most insulted' !!)... bloody place was full of parquet flooring, 'girls' had to wear clogs to avoid damaging the floor.

I'll give you one guess what my reaction to that was!!

Needless to say I ended up in a nice co-ed school

[dizzy bint]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

PMSL..... Yep, me too!!!

aye, my parents tried the All Girls School palava..... cant recall the name of the place, was in Sevenoaks, and run by The Montagues (I remember my dad pronouncing their name incorrectly and the owner was 'most insulted' !!)... bloody place was full of parquet flooring, 'girls' had to wear clogs to avoid damaging the floor.

I'll give you one guess what my reaction to that was!!

Needless to say I ended up in a nice co-ed school

You were lucky .

I will say though that education wise there is something to be said for single sex, much less distraction. Pastorally there is little to be said for it, although i remember the occasional boy being chased off the school grounds that he'd been encouraged to come onto by some of the girls in the first place!

[lostalex]

In a free country you should have as many choices as possible. Private schools create more choices, therefore private schools are good. IMO.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Yes. Private schools should exist.


Private education tends to lend itself to a more disciplined, more responsible type of student in the main. When parents are forking out their hard earned cash: you tend to find that the students take 'learning' far more seriously.

State schools should of course exist - and in my opinion, that is absolutely without question. They should however be of a such a standard that they meet a higher criteria than many (not all, not by a long shot), currently do. Regrettably: due to the number of pupils required in each class in comparison to private schooling/class numbers etc: it is totally understandable that teachers (and the public sector schooling system) can and does fail. Is that their fault? Not entirely. As I say: when parents feel the cost of education straight from their pockets: you can be sure that they (the parents), the children and the tutors/teachers/ financial laid out - in comparions to State schooling for which those schools have little or no control over - all take education far more seriously - overall.

I can speak from experience of both: and I have to say, for many years I was taught within the Scottish educational system - and it was pretty disciplined. If anything, it was on par with the subsequent private education I was priviledged enough to experience in later years.

Unfortunately: it appears that the rules from 30 years ago in State Schools now, Scottish or otherwise, have gone down the drain.

In respect of 'people shouldn't have to pay'. Well, if I was a parent: I would prefer my money to be used towards privately educating my child: than using that money to be 'squandered' on giving them the gadgetry that tends to be used for social reasons, in having to clothe them in the latest 'must have designer' gear etc....

I agree, I have just noticed this thread but I would say yes,they should exist and I cannot really add any more to what Pyramid has said above except mine wasn't in Scotland though.

[Boothy]

I think they should exist.

If people have money and want to send their child to a private school, then they should be allowed. In the same way people who can afford private health care have the option of private healthcare.

It's their money.

[Z]

I went to a private school. I think it was 10% of my school was made up of pupils who were there on bursaries/scholarships. My mum started working again so that my parents could get the money together to be able to send me and my younger brother to that school. She gets up at 5am to go to work, my dad's up at 6am, they work long days and they go without a lot of things that they would love to have in order to pay for my brother and I's education. I don't think I am a stuck up person or that I'm any of the things that people have said in this thread about privately educated school pupils. I worked my ass off to get 5As in my Highers, I've just finished my second year of a university degree. Some of my friends have extremely wealthy parents, some of them do not. I'm not sure why there are so many stereotypes being listed in this thread, but it's kind of grating to read because people who act like that in real life are nowhere near as commonplace as is being implied in this thread. Sure, there are some idiots with money (or rather, people with money who have idiot kids) but that can't be helped - in my experience the overwhelming majority of pupils at my school were there to do well and get the best education because everyone else was there to work. Two people left my year of school at the end of 4th year, the minimum age for leaving school. Two. Private schools don't just exist so wealthy people can throw money at them (and I should also mention that, in case it's being forgotten, people who pay for private education still have to contribute to the public school system too, just like everybody else) - they exist so that people have a more stable learning environment. Beastie, my class sizes were closer to 30 than they were to 15, so I'm not sure where you got that figure from.

If anything, I've found that people who went to state schools are openly hostile towards me when they discover I went to a private school because of their stereotypical views, and not because of me. That is, they have this idea in their head of what a private school kid is like and then transfer that on top of my personality, and hate away on a system by making snide comments to me. I'm humble about it. My parents sacrificed a lot to put me there and I tried my absolute hardest to make them proud of me, and I did, what's wrong with that?

[Jords]

No

[Stu]

This thread's great proof that reverse snobbery is even more annoying that regular snobbery.

Rich twats lol.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Stu

This thread's great proof that reverse snobbery is even more annoying that regular snobbery.

Rich twats lol.

This. I'm sitting here reading this like, okay so I went to a private school, I forgot that that instantly makes me the son of millionaires! Let me go post this reply while I'm jetski-ing in the Maldives! Clarence! More tea!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zee

I went to a private school. I think it was 10% of my school was made up of pupils who were there on bursaries/scholarships. My mum started working again so that my parents could get the money together to be able to send me and my younger brother to that school. She gets up at 5am to go to work, my dad's up at 6am, they work long days and they go without a lot of things that they would love to have in order to pay for my brother and I's education. I don't think I am a stuck up person or that I'm any of the things that people have said in this thread about privately educated school pupils. I worked my ass off to get 5As in my Highers, I've just finished my second year of a university degree. Some of my friends have extremely wealthy parents, some of them do not. I'm not sure why there are so many stereotypes being listed in this thread, but it's kind of grating to read because people who act like that in real life are nowhere near as commonplace as is being implied in this thread. Sure, there are some idiots with money (or rather, people with money who have idiot kids) but that can't be helped - in my experience the overwhelming majority of pupils at my school were there to do well and get the best education because everyone else was there to work. Two people left my year of school at the end of 4th year, the minimum age for leaving school. Two. Private schools don't just exist so wealthy people can throw money at them (and I should also mention that, in case it's being forgotten, people who pay for private education still have to contribute to the public school system too, just like everybody else) - they exist so that people have a more stable learning environment. Beastie, my class sizes were closer to 30 than they were to 15, so I'm not sure where you got that figure from.

If anything, I've found that people who went to state schools are openly hostile towards me when they discover I went to a private school because of their stereotypical views, and not because of me. That is, they have this idea in their head of what a private school kid is like and then transfer that on top of my personality, and hate away on a system by making snide comments to me. I'm humble about it. My parents sacrificed a lot to put me there and I tried my absolute hardest to make them proud of me, and I did, what's wrong with that?

Absolutely first rate post Zee. The comments within your last paragraph being so very true: as exemplified by quite a few on this very thread in respect of stereotypical views and blinkered perceptions.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Stu

This thread's great proof that reverse snobbery is even more annoying that regular snobbery.

Rich twats lol.

And life's a bitch but hey, that's life for you. lol

[Toxic]

NO!

Why let people who already have alot of money benefit further in life? we should all be given equal oppertunitys.

[Shaun]

eh sure why not.

grammar schools >

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Toxic

NO!

Why let people who already have alot of money benefit further in life? we should all be given equal oppertunitys.

If ever proof was needed, if ever there was a reason for private education, this is it!!

[Toxic]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

If ever proof was needed, if ever there was a reason for private education, this is it!!

Dont talk about me like that, how dare you, I was just giving my opinion and that doesn't make me any less intelligent than you.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Toxic

Dont talk about me like that, how dare you, I was just giving my opinion and that doesn't make me any less intelligent than you.

Who said anything about less intelligent - please don't jump to conclusions and pretend I said something I didn't.

I was in fact referring to your last post and in particular your words, 'those with a lot of money'.... you clearly haven't read many of the posts put up by members who HAVE had private education, but come from very humble backgrounds - and not because they came from families with a lot of money - but to the contrary.

You not acknowledging this basic fact, rather than showing you as being intelligent or not is not for me to decide: what it does show is an ability to avoid what others are clearly stating. That it does not take 'those with a lot of money' to be the only people who send their children to private schooling. What it does show is this misconception that it is only those 'with a lot of money' who benefit from such education. This is simply not true.

To avoid and dismiss the comments from members telling others on here that they did not come from well to do families seems not only a blinkered thing to do: it's also quite an ignorant viewpoint based on skewed perception.

[letmein]

This thread is ripe with Communists.

No wonder Britain is in the state it's in.

[Tom4784]

If somebody has the resources or the determination to attend these schools then good for them. If iIwas a parent and I had the chance to send my kids to one I'd do it. I just think that maybe there should be more scholarships and the like on offer to give more chances to talented pupils who don't have the money to attend these places.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If somebody has the resources or the determination to attend these schools then good for them. If iIwas a parent and I had the chance to send my kids to one I'd do it. I just think that maybe there should be more scholarships and the like on offer to give more chances to talented pupils who don't have the money to attend these places.

Excellent point and I agree 100%.

Just think of the amount of scholarships that the government could fund: instead of ploughing such finances into handing out new IDs to child abusers and child murders. Would be nice for the Government to divert those millions of pounds that they put toward the evil people in our society - and gave it to the 'good people' in our society.

[Pyramid*]

At the point of me posting this comment: 22 members have put up comment.

Out of those 22 members: at least 4 have been educated (full or in part) privately.

That' represents 18.8% - ie: almost a fifth of the members on this thread have received private schooling - without knowing Chuck's background - all others have stated that they do not come from rich / well off /wealthy families.

I happen to be aware of at least 4 other members (and I don't mean those who never post: I mean regular active posters, who have been educated privately and are not 'rolling in it').

Kinda blows the myth that many have on here that private education is only for the elite few and the very rich in our society ......... hard to argue with the figures.