[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Do you think that if there were absolute proof of rehabilitation then that would stop some of the vigilante idiots from still pursuing their misguided concept of justice and trying to form a lynch mob? Working on the presumption that he has indeed been rehabilitated then I wouldnt be opposed to him having a new identity if there was sufficient evidence that his life was under threat.

And that's not really an answerable question because it presumes that the money can either be spent on one thing or the other. I'd rather taxpayers money wasnt being spent in the billions on unjust wars in Afghanistan, Iraq & now Libya, or that so much was spent on Trident etc. but it does, it's a straw man to say that because I wouldnt mind him having a new identity I, by extension, want to see sick children not be treated.

Given that the thread is nothing to do with wars etc, your 2nd paragraph is a completely moot point.

Re your first paragraph: if I am very honest: I really don't care. Owens didn't give a damn, why should I be concerned for his welfare. I'm not, and I don't pretend to be either.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Given that the thread is nothing to do with wars etc, your 2nd paragraph is a completely moot point.

Re your first paragraph: if I am very honest: I really don't care. Owens didn't give a damn, why should I be concerned for his welfare. I'm not, and I don't pretend to be either.

What the hell, of course it's relevant, this thread isnt specifically about sick children either but you brought that up and that's fine because public expenditure is relevant to the thread and wars are obviously a part of that

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

What the hell, of course it's relevant, this thread isnt specifically about sick children either but you brought that up and that's fine because public expenditure is relevant to the thread and wars are obviously a part of that

you will find you are taking my comment out of context......if you care to read the rest of what I wrote on that same paragraph - ie:

Do you truly feel that the strained public purse and it's very restricted finances should be used for such a new ID - rather than say, for example, being used towards treating sick children / or treating children who have suffered emotionally and physically at the hands of such people. ?

The word 'sick' meant in regards to their mentail health due to such abuse and torture.

The thread is NOT about where public monies should be spent. Wars or not.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

you will find you are taking my comment out of context......if you care to read the rest of what I wrote on that same paragraph - ie: The word 'sick' meant in regards to their mentail health due to such abuse and torture.

The thread is NOT about where public monies should be spent. Wars or not.

I disagree, considering the thread is about how innapropiate you feel it is that this is what taxpayers money is being spent on then surely it's relevant to make other points in regards to how taxes are spent, is it not?

Anyway this is going off topic, I dont care much for an argument over the relevance of an argument so I'll leave it there

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I disagree, considering the thread is about how innapropiate you feel it is that this is what taxpayers money is being spent on then surely it's relevant to make other points in regards to how taxes are spent, is it not?

Anyway this is going off topic, I dont care much for an argument over the relevance of an argument so I'll leave it there

No it's not MTVN. It's painfully clear what this thread is about - not general allocation of funds from the public purse for any possible discussion topic - it's very specifically related to the public purse money being used to provide child abusers and killers with new identities - monies being used to protect violent, sick, abusing criminals and child killers.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

No it's not MTVN. It's painfully clear what this thread is about - not general allocation of funds from the public purse for any possible discussion topic - it's very specifically related to the public purse money being used to provide child abusers and killers with new identities - monies being used to protect violent, sick, abusing criminals and child killers.

If you want to say that taxpayers money can be better spent elsewhere than it is perfectly reasonable to discuss what else taxpayers money is spent on. But this is stupid and going nowhere. And for the first couple of pages this thread had nothing to do with having a new identity so dont pretend you're suddenly incredibly indignant that you feel the discussion has drifted off topic ever so slightly

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

If you want to say that taxpayers money can be better spent elsewhere than it is perfectly reasonable to discuss what else taxpayers money is spent on. But this is stupid and going nowhere. And for the first couple of pages this thread had nothing to do with having a new identity so dont pretend you're suddenly incredibly indignant that you feel the discussion has drifted off topic ever so slightly

You might want to go check again...you were there commenting in the first few pages - and were pretty indignant when I said some of the views that some had - in relation to child abusers, child killers - sickened me - one of those views being yours because I disagreed that this man (and those like him), should be have his human rights considered now - after the crime he committed - and I strongly objected to that and him being given the possibilty of new id etc.

I love a good debate, but your recent input is not adding much to the heart of the matter. I really am going to respecfully request that you stop trying to skew the thread off rails, it's very clear what the subject is. Thanks very much.