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Originally Posted by Snowball

I agree it doesn't, it makes them uncouth and feel like hard men when they use curse words - due to a lack of their own vocabularly and inability to express themselves in an acceptable manner.

Agreed...though I swear a lot myself...not At people, but in general

Originally Posted by Snowball

What does make a yob is someone who cannot prove they have a ticket, who resorts to swearing at someone who is asking him to do so or leave, who refuses to leave and then lies about not being allowed to get his bag (and most probably lied about his elongated story of having being sold 2 single tickets, realised this earlier on, claims he meant to do somethign about it, didn't but somehow still managed to argue like hell with the conductor saying he gave him the *******ing ticket;....yet he claimed in the news article that he knew he had a wrong ticket and had done nothing to sort it out....as he'd 'intended' on doing').

Speculation. he may have had another bag. That part of the news story is a bit odd though,, but even so...he still did not deserve to be manhandled by a randomer.

Originally Posted by Snowball

He didn't give a damn that he was holding up the train, didn't give a damn about the inconvenience HE was causing.

He wouldnt have held up the train if the conductor had actually done his job properly instead of making a big scene and inviting others to have a go. Great 'conflict management' training that train line gives its staff, yeah?

Originally Posted by Snowball

Add all that up, and to me, that is a yob.

Fair enough. To me a yob is someone who uses unnecessary violence, purposely causes trouble, uses intimidation to get what they want etc etc. But each to their own