[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Tom

Think it depends what you define as rape

If one person in a relationship wants sex but the other doesn't and they do it anyway, is that rape? Some say it is, but I'd say that happens to most people at some point

Are you serious? Of course it's rape, being in a relationship with someone doesn't make you their property. And I seriously doubt that it's happened to most people, I know it certainly has never happened to me.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

Are you serious? Of course it's rape, being in a relationship with someone doesn't make you their property. And I seriously doubt that it's happened to most people, I know it certainly has never happened to me.

So every time you've had sex you've wanted it and not just gave in to keep the peace? I'm not on about forcing yourself on someone against their will

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Tom

So every time you've had sex you've wanted it and not just gave in to keep the peace? I'm not on about forcing yourself on someone against their will

Oh lol, well if you agree to have sex (whether you're in the mood or not), then you're consenting, I don't see how that could be compared to rape

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

Oh lol, well if you agree to have sex (whether you're in the mood or not), then you're consenting, I don't see how that could be compared to rape

But some people do see that as rape because in a sense you're forcing someone to consent when they don't want to. Thats what I meant by my original post, and i bet a lot of that 20% figure is due to situations like that

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Tom

Think it depends what you define as rape

If one person in a relationship wants sex but the other doesn't and they do it anyway, is that rape? Some say it is, but I'd say that happens to most people at some point

The bit I've bolded was why I misunderstood what you were saying, I read it as the man does it anyway not that the girl does, if you get what I mean?

Originally Posted by Tom

But some people do see that as rape because in a sense you're forcing someone to consent when they don't want to. Thats what I meant by my original post, and i bet a lot of that 20% figure is due to situations like that

Well, that's just silly, you can't force someone to consent (unless you threaten to kill their family if they don't or something ) Though I do agree that figure seems extremely high

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Tom

But some people do see that as rape because in a sense you're forcing someone to consent when they don't want to. Thats what I meant by my original post, and i bet a lot of that 20% figure is due to situations like that

I agree totally! Thats probably the reason for that ridiculous 20% figure. That would be a serious, serious problem, not just some stats.
I bet you anything, it includes people who had sex, and feel dirty about it, the next day, people who got drunk and regretfully did it, etc, etc.....which lets face it, a lot of girls fall in that cathegory.

And by the way, dont think that us men havent haD our next day "what da F did I do moments".

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

I agree totally! Thats probably the reason for that ridiculous 20% figure. That would be a serious, serious problem, not just some stats.
I bet you anything, it includes people who had sex, and feel dirty about it, the next day, people who got drunk and regretfully did it, etc, etc.....which lets face it, a lot of girls fall in that cathegory.

Regrettably, that percentage is probably an under-estimate :

Some types of rape are excluded from official reports altogether, (the FBI's definition, for example, excludes all rapes except forcible rapes of females), because a significant number of rapes go unreported even when they are included as reportable rapes, and also because a significant number of rapes reported to the police do not advance to prosecution.

Rapes are very rarely reported to law enforcement. The 2007 report for the Department of Justice shows only 18% cases of forcible rape reported in the general population sample (even less so for drug-facilitated rape, 10%; numbers for the sample of college women are yet lower, with 16% reporting for forcible rape.) One factor relating to this under reporting may be the misconception that most rapes are committed by strangers.[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in...ape_statistics